I've seen a couple of negative feedbacks on self landing and relauching the rise. any improvements for 09. one more thing are you guys bumping the price like everybody else, i can't afford Liquid Force anymore. Keep it real.

yeah thats about like every other kite. good thing i was about to flip!!

Oh oops, my bad!! $929 with out tax!! i was way off!! i guess you didn't pick up on the sarcasm?

hmmmmm nobile board $1000... nobile KITE!! $4000?? wouldn't be suprised

well my naish "quick" release was a joke on my 05 shift system bar, i had to use two hands to get it to go. In other words i'd be dead if i had to use it in a "situation".

it looks like slingshot only in the shape of the knob you pull, the system is what liquid force uses currently.

any experiences with the 13m Rev? compared to equally sized havocs and instincts.

heres a question, why can i go up wind better on my non-dominate side? I go away from the launch left foot forward as usual and come back heelside switch, and go upwind way better, almost unconsiously.

If nothing else the Rev is cheaper than the new Havoc. I'm still sooo shocked and bummed out that Liquid Force is so expensive now!!

thanks for the responses guys. yeah i peter thats what i was getting at, the hifi looks to be very similar in that it is a bit flatter through the middle. i'm really hoping i get a chance to ride one soon. i've realized after riding my assault 2 that i don't really like having so much throw on the b...