herbert: Thank you for taking the time to post some very helpful info. I do pass through Oahu about once a year... be careful what you wish for. Much appreciated. edt: Your comments seem to me to be just good common sense. Thanks... After reading some of the other comments, I have to admit that you ...

That is an amazingly small package for a 17 meter. THank you for posting that. I think I'm sold.

Thanks for the replies... Taut... Like you, my focus is on wave riding. The only strutless that I have ridden is the C1-17 meter. An amazing kite, but gets to be a real handful as the wind approaches 20 mph. Otherwise... loved it! Maybe the new bridle configuration has smoothed that out. I don't kno...

I am thinking about putting together a new quiver of kites for travel. Am intrigued with the small pack down size of the new strutless kites. Does anybody have any hands on experience now of these kites in the small sizes? Thanx...

I'm curious about light wind performance. Can anyone compare it to the previous champ, the Speed 3 21 meter?

What is the usual wind range and direction in July?

I love the clean all white look of the Clouds. A refreshing change from the splattered graffiti look of most other brands. Nice...

It's possible. Density, temperature, altitude all affect the lift generated by An aircraft. The power of a kite is simply the lift it is generating as an airfoil.

Wow... I think that I have seen the future, and the future is Picklefork!!!!

Hey Ryan... your story is looking good. There should be one new HELLFISH II CLASIC on the way from Best!