I have a Boxer2 16, Boxer 12 and Boxer 9, I have also ridden a Boxer2 9m for 1.5 hrs. I owned a V4 16m for 6 months which I have replaced with a Boxer 2 16m. Boxer2 9m vs Boxer 9m Boxer2 seemed to have slightly more float, felt like kite had slightly more draft as seemed to have slightly more pull, ...