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by holden
Tue May 24, 2016 11:38 am
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment
Replies: 85
Views: 8195

Re: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment

he tested diablo 10 and 15, joker6 9 and 11 and chrono2 15 which he modified himself.

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by holden
Tue May 24, 2016 11:23 am
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment
Replies: 85
Views: 8195

Re: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment

thanks for your input, Regis-de-giens. the diablo mixer in fact changes into a 6:2:1:0, you are right.
by holden
Tue May 24, 2016 10:20 am
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment
Replies: 85
Views: 8195

Re: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment

now my head is spinning... in my calculations the diablomixer changes from a 4:2:1 into a 6:3:1 assuming that when the diablo line kicks in, the Z line between the diablo line knot and the diablo pulley goes slack, Z will move 1.5 times the ammount of the back line movement. there is no indication f...
by holden
Mon May 23, 2016 1:28 pm
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment
Replies: 85
Views: 8195

Re: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment

ok then, with the wac engaged, the 4:2:1 mixer becomes a 3:1:0 mixer.
by holden
Mon May 23, 2016 1:19 pm
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment
Replies: 85
Views: 8195

Re: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment

yeah, please delete the quote of the old version of my post because the 1.75 should be 3.
by holden
Mon May 23, 2016 12:23 pm
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment
Replies: 85
Views: 8195

Re: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment

now we come to the diablo mixer... when the diablo line kicks in the mixer changes from a A(0) B(1/4) C(1/2) Z(1) to a A(0) B(1/4) C(1/2) Z(1.5) mixer, since the Z lines of the kite get pulled in not the amount you pull in the backlines, but 1.5 times as much. written in fractions it is A(0) B(1/4) ...
by holden
Mon May 23, 2016 10:49 am
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment
Replies: 85
Views: 8195

Re: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment

:-) ok, so i will risk being wrong again, then by doing some calculations: mixers can be described like this: 4:2 which is short for 4:2:1 which is short for 0:4:2:1 meaning, if A stays (0) and Z gets hauled in 1 the B travels one fourth of Z. C travels one half of Z. so actually the relations would...
by holden
Mon May 23, 2016 9:28 am
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment
Replies: 85
Views: 8195

Re: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment

i did a drawing with a wac-mixer and as i see it now, i might be wrong again, it is more like A gets fixed to B than the other way around. meaning that the line between the wac line and the frontline goes slack.
by holden
Fri May 20, 2016 1:22 pm
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment
Replies: 85
Views: 8195

Re: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment

ok, if we compare and describe our findings, we need to keep in mind that the joker and the a15 have quite different characteristics. so one big issue (good or bad) with one kite might not have the same impact with the other. i will stay with the diablo line for now and will try to catch up a bit wi...
by holden
Fri May 20, 2016 8:45 am
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment
Replies: 85
Views: 8195

Re: F1 Diablo Camber adjustment

ok, finally i installed/tested the diablo line first on my elf joker5 11 then on the joker6 15. i will only talk about the 11er because i the wind went down to nothing when i started to trim the 15. i tested the 11er on the beach and on water with my foilboard. the wind was at the lower side of the ...

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