I've had similar problems to you setting up the bar, compounded by the fact that I had to shorten the 'chicken loop' rope by 4" so I could reach the depower and reride systems!! I have the back lines about 4" longer when the back and depower are 'mid set'. Comparing the bar and safety systems to oth...

Air Monkey - Did you find out any more details on the Blueye GreenRoom's? They work out at about £50 inc carriage if you order direct.

I tried on some Oakley Water Jackets but they flet really uncomfortable under my Gath.

Has anybody had any dealtings with KiteProShop? (http://www.kiteproshop.com/)

I'm thinking of getting a kite at the end of the month and they have the cheapest prices.

I'm sort of coming around to that way of thinking. The cost of buying one here in the UK is too expensive (I've been quoted about £900 for Toro 12m inc bar (I don't need the bar). KiteShopPro.com have quoted me 764 Euros (£484) for a 12m Toro (kite only) and that includes P&P. It's the best de...

Thanks.

I'll keep an eye out and wait for the reviews.

I'm also going to hold out buying the 12m Toro.....as there could be a lot of cheap low useage Rhino/Toros on the market soon : )

Is the Rhino II going to replace the Rhino or are they going to keep both models running side by side?

Are the prices of the Rhino going to be the same as the Rhino II?

You could try Jon at XT-Sea (hon@xt-sea.com) He's based on Shoreham Beach.

Thanks guys

A new 12m Toro or a second hand 12m Rhino it is....

It's a high aspect kite. Not recommended for beginners.

I've never flown one but the reviews I've read have been good.

The kite came out early on in the season and has been improved apon by other kites.

Just to complicate matters my local kiteshop has recommended a 14m Toro, I didn't know the kite existed.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated...Has anyone used this kite, whats it's windrange, etc etc