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by gwicke
Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:32 pm
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: LE Stiffeners
Replies: 13
Views: 1322

Re: LE Stiffeners

The Pansh Aurora also deforms some around the leading edge, especially when going upwind at the top of the kite's range. I honestly wouldn't worry about it too much. There are several other design factors that contribute to the deformation, most of which aren't easy to change. If it still bothers yo...
by gwicke
Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:21 am
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: Flysurfer sonic Race
Replies: 34
Views: 4494

Re: Flysurfer sonic Race

One trade-off with latest-gen race kites like the Sonic Race is that they have been quite aggressively optimized for weight, which comes at the cost of some robustness in crashes. While the Sonic Race does not seem to suffer from the exploding rib syndrome of the Ozone R1v2 (more ribs and better rib...
by gwicke
Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:33 am
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: LE Stiffeners
Replies: 13
Views: 1322

Re: LE Stiffeners

Just measured the nylon rods on my F-One Diablo, as I need to replace one. The diameter is 2mm.

10m of this stuff ship for less than $2 on ebay or aliexpress. Search terms: "2mm nylon grass trimmer line".
by gwicke
Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:56 am
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: Flysurfer sonic Race
Replies: 34
Views: 4494

Re: Flysurfer sonic Race

Thanks to a friend I got to try out an 11m Sonic Race today. Conditions were fairly gusty 15-25 knots. I was on a race foil & 12m lines. Compared to the 11m Diablo 2 I usually ride (and used back-to-back today), I found the Sonic to be a lot easier to handle. The slightly higher arc makes it turn ve...
by gwicke
Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:03 pm
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: LE Stiffeners
Replies: 13
Views: 1322

Re: LE Stiffeners

@pugetsoundkiter, there was also a thread about attaching rods externally & slightly to the side of ribs, which might be interesting for retrofitting: http://www.paraglidingforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=79154
by gwicke
Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:39 am
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: LE Stiffeners
Replies: 13
Views: 1322

Re: LE Stiffeners

The stiffeners are basically grass cutter nylon line, which is sold in many hardware stores. According to http://www.paraglidingforum.com/viewtop ... e0#p244350, the first paraglider used them in 1999.
by gwicke
Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:26 am
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: Flysurfer sonic Race
Replies: 34
Views: 4494

Re: Flysurfer sonic Race

I had a closer look at the Sonic Race bridle today. For anything but the tips, A is connected straight to the front lines, B is on 1:4. and Z is straight on the backlines. A, B, Z are attached close to equidistant, with Z fairly far (~25cm) forward, near the front of the miniribs. With B on 1:4 rath...
by gwicke
Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:24 pm
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: Elf Joker 8 released
Replies: 7
Views: 1420

Re: Elf Joker 8 released

@Bille, the Sonic 2 is older and lower aspect than the 2017 Sonic Race @jorisw was referring to. See https://flysurfer.com/project/sonic-race/. Its projected AR is somewhere around 6.2, lower than the Sonic Race and Joker 8.
by gwicke
Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:39 am
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: Elf Joker 8 released
Replies: 7
Views: 1420

Re: Elf Joker 8 released

joriws wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:35 am
Believing is not knowing. Flysurfer sonic race is AR 7.45 to 7.75
Flat on the ground, but not projected. The Joker 8 is 7.5 to 7.9 flat on the ground, and has slightly less arc than the sonic. Hence the slightly larger difference in projected AR.
by gwicke
Sat Jul 01, 2017 5:21 pm
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: Elf Joker 8 released
Replies: 7
Views: 1420

Elf Joker 8 released

The eighth iteration of the Elf Joker is out: https://www.elfkite.com/kites With a projected AR of around 6.7 for the 11m, and closer to 6.9 for larger sizes, I believe this is the highest aspect foil kite now on the market. For comparison, the Ozone R1v2 is relatively low aspect at around 5.7. I am...

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