Toby please, do not ban Mr. Carafino from the forum yet, he might be a very poor foil producer and business manager, but you will never have such a creative and entertaining forum content provider :thumb: Agreed :thumb: But please remove all who stirring up sh!t on kite forum: "Truck" :evil: "Racin...

The only strutless that I have ridden is the C1-17 meter. An amazing kite, but gets to be a real handful as the wind approaches 20 mph. Otherwise... loved it! Sounds like you're really stoked about it and you had a good bridal and bar tweak so probably you could loop it also :thumb: :lol: But than ...

Rotule wrote:When did he responded to you?

i think i'm gonna give him a call tomorrow morning just to check.

i don't have much time to do it but ....

So what's the news, enquiring mind wants to know

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What do those having tried the strutless kites say now in 2014 ? Is it like the Sigma shape - not really any benefits, so it has died out again ? Or is it just the opposite - a LOT of advantages, but not many has discovered the gold yet ? Lets hear some facts about the ups and downs now :rollgrin: ...

And we haven't heard Mr. Pump Me Up's opinion yet
Where is he

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greenhat wrote:As long as it pretty powered up it holds its shape really well and performs like a 3-5 strut kite.

And nobody believes that
If that would be true why Bill Hanson and other stupid manufacturers are using at least 3 struts

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I ride my edge on the second setting at the kite, because the light bar pressure setting is too light. Very very light bar pressure. Can't feel the kite enough during transitions with kite loops and the such. Even on the second setting it is damn light. Again work out what riding style you are afte...

People who are just surfing here the net and they don't have a clue of Ozone's Edge 2013 bar pressure, :bang: should look it up here "what kite has low bar pressure with power?" When people are missing the experience and agility plus flying that in less than 12 Kn, would be better not to say anythin...

So far the only downside I've noted is that it doesn't feel grunty I would call that an upside :) I agree it doesn't feel grunty and its deceiving because all you feel is the bar pressure. I tried the 13m which barely had the power of a 10m size :roll: .So I would really advise try it before you bu...

There are pros and cons about it. Every user can come out of the dark and make himself public. I agree :thumb: Threads like "Epic Infinity & Bullshit Light Wind Claims" was useful to shed more lite to it and same token it was desirable to lock it, when people started calling each others by the name...