I was responding to pump me up.

Correct, BEST did not purchase the bow kite patents, they were purchased by a holding company owned by Javier, who owns Best. https://kitesurfingmag.com/north-kiteboarding-signs-up-for-kite-patent/ but other than that you're flat out wrong. Cabrinha, Neil Pryde do/did owe them money and North did en...

I don't know what they have in place with their suppliers, but they were in the hole with Neil Pryde for close to a million dollars. NP did owe BEST a similar amount for use of the kite patents so maybe they traded it away and came to an agreement for future production. I hope so. They also make wit...

Sq, exactly my point. Launch your brand on its own merits, not by bouncing off a failure, seems like a cheap way to get attention. Start a new thread and pay Toby. If you worked under those conditions, it sucks, and everyone who did should have quit before a melt down. And you did quit. Kudos. I le...

Well, I can assure you there was no asshats like that working at BEST, when I was there.

Do we think the customer service rep decided to flip customers off because he didn't like them and he liked being shouted at on the phone? Do we think the bar designer decided that customers with defective bars would not get the spare part because he wanted everyone who bought something he designed ...

Who owns Eleveight?

The guys who work there, there's no backers or investors, just long time industry guys doing it on their own. Rider owned and run. Only possible because of Peter's long standing with the companies they manufacturer with. Think they're working from Peter's house still.

Trouble For Best's owner?

It really is quite an ugly story of twists and turns. One can't help but get the feeling that he got in out his depth with some seriously big hitters in Russia and some sharks back in Spain.

If you liked the TS you'll find a kite developed from that lineage coming from Eleveight.

Limited info on the brand is defo part of their launch strategy. Basically think of everyone you know who designed stuff for Best- that's who's running Eleveight.