RalfsB wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:38 pm
Dwight wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:27 pm
Both one struts were wonderful for foiling. Much preferred over no strut, but those two one struts were very different in how they behaved as the wind increased.
Can you elaborate on the behavior and also mention which brands they were? I absolutely agree this is important.
Ok, I’ll give you the long version of my search for the ultimate foiling kite.
I flew gong strutless kites for one season. I had 12,9,6 sizes, I knew them well. Awesome foiling kite. But, I got tired of relaunch issues when water got trapped between the leading edge and canopy. I could ride with confidence, in less wind than nearly everyone. They also lost steering input when depowered. Upper range limited.
I tried a friends single strut liquid force several times. 2016 model I think. I formed the opinion single strut kites were the future of foiling, if you can afford the luxury of having a foiling specific quiver. The LF wasn’t perfect though. My gong had feather light steering and bar pressure. Pure joy to foil and feel the kite with finger light sensations and kite feedback. So...I wanted a kite like my gong, but with one strut. I waited...hoping gong would add one strut. They did not.
I had an opportunity to get a deal on the Naish boxer. I was worried it might be heavy. All the famous brands reinforce their kites to last many years, instead of just going for light. Gong had less reinforcements and simpler construction.
I bought the boxer and was very surprised it felt lighter flying than the LF by a lot, and felt similarly light as the gong no strut. Yet the boxer has plastic mini battens, so go figure. You can’t always go just by specs. Flying tells more in this case. It also had the very light finger tips bar pressure I love when foiling. The boxer stays in the air as well as the no strut and doesn’t surge in gusts like the no strut. I find myself feeling more relaxed pushing the light wind limits with the boxer, than the no strut. The bonus with all this, is way more upper range, so I don’t have to switch kites as often as I did with no strut.
The boxer is more resistant to flutter than the others I’ve flown. It has none most of the time.
I haven’t flown any other one struts.
FYI, the LF was 9m. My Boxer 9m, my Gong 9m