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GAASTRA 25 TEST BY JEFF QUICK!!!

Postby Guttorm » Sun Jul 06, 2003 1:56 am

I had a chance to try the Gaastra 25.0 kite in 6-12 MPH winds.

This was in a bay, so no surf (all flat water). I tested the kite
with my LWD 181, and a Jimmy Lewis 144. I weight 190+ lbs.

The kite itself looks really 'trim' and very cleaned up and aero-
dynamic looking. The dual leading edge is just an amazing concept
(which makes the leading edge oval for better aerodynamics, and also
decreases the 'size' needed to maintain its shape. As expected, the
kite is not as 'huge' as people might think (though its still pretty
damn big!), but keep in mind, its less than 5.0 Sq meters larger than
the other 20+ Sq meter kites. Where it shines, is its aerodynamics
and design.

Setup wasnt bad at all. The dual leading edge comes with 4 valves,
(1 for inflate, 1 for deflate on each bladder). The pump has a new
dual head port, which makes it possible to pump both leading edges up
at the same time, so they will have 100% equal pressure. It took
about 96 pumps to get it fully inflated (each tube is pretty small in
diameter). The battens are skinny, and a cinch to inflate. This
kite is definitely easier to set up than the older 20.0+ inflatables.

In flight, it felt just like a 16.0 sized kite and turned only about
20% slower. It wanted to fly quickly and to the edge of the window
(unlike the other 20+ sq meter kites). It also did not have that
downwind 'tractor pull' so characteristic of the older 20+ sq meter
kites. It felt just like my 16.5, only I was riding in lighter wind.

Performance: I was pointing upwind solidly in 10 MPH, planing side
wind in 8 MPH with a little bit of sining, and at 6 MPH, I
was 'working' the kite and barely planing. At 12 MPH I was rocking
upwind edging hard, and there were a few gusts of 14 MPH, where I
could feel mega power, on the borderline of being pulled of my edge.
This kite probably maxes out at 16 MPH...but then I am rocking on my
16.5.

Jumping was typical of light wind, low with long floaty hangtime for
such low altitude. This kite will probably jump much better in
waves, where you can get some extra pop and altitude from the waves.

Overall, the kite is amazing. It flies like a smaller kite, yet
still has that extra grunt needed when you just aren't powered in 10-
12 with the 20.0+ kites.

This kite is equivalent to a ~12.5 foil kite. I would have loved a
bit more grunt on the lower end (for my weight, 190+ lbs), though the
25.0 is already opening the doors for lighter wind riding for
anyone! For riders under 160lbs, this is probably the biggest kite
you'll ever need. But for riders 190+ lbs or more, I think a 30.0 in
this design is the call. That way, they could ride 'solidly' (upwind
edging pretty hard...not gently going upwind) in 8-10 mph, rather
than 10-12 mph that this kite allows, which is still damn amazing!

Not the miracle worker I was hoping for, but I give it a thumbs up!

Jeffro

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Postby Dwight » Sun Jul 06, 2003 4:20 am

Jeffro,

Have you tried the 20m Rhino2?

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Postby DP » Sun Jul 06, 2003 5:20 pm

Great little review Jeff. Seems super honest and matches what some people who were there say as far as wind speed goes. Next you guys have find out how it goes in steady lite winds at the beach. My R2 20 doesn't like stinkies either. I bet the kite comes on in steady winds.

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Postby anthonyd » Mon Jul 07, 2003 12:58 am

Jeffro,

Have you tried many foils or kite with people with foils?

I am not trying to bag you, just trying to extrapolate a refrence here.

I kite with a guy who has a 16m flysurfer and him and I get going in teh same wind (me on my rhino 20m). If you say that the phoenix equates to about eh same a a 12m foild then I am lead to believe that it is not as grunty as the rhino 20m. That's surprising!

Cheers

Anthony

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Postby Toby » Mon Jul 07, 2003 9:35 am

Speed Converter: http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/speed


Hi Jeff,

thx for the heads up.

Sounds interesting, have to try myself now to see when I can get going.
I will let you guys know about it.

But I think the 25 sqm is not equivalent to a 12.5 foil.
Flysurfer will soon release a 21.5 Titan. Which I guess will be eqivalent to the 25 sqm or maybe a bit more.

Greets
Toby

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Gaastra 25

Postby DP » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:32 am

Saw the Gaastra 25 out today while i was riding my R2 20. It looked very good. The rider (Jard, i think) is heavier than me by about 30 pounds (I weigh 160 lbs) and most likely on a similar planing area board (I ride a wide WT 161). He was staying up wind and getting outside in decent sized surf, maybe five foot sets. I was loosing ground and getting outside, but jumping on every tack (he might have been jumping too, I was riding). The wind was 10 mphs max where i was and maybe 1-2 mphs more where he was. Although it appears that the kite isn't fully powered in 8 mphs, its still a breakthrough because these guys weren't even able to kite in conditions like these on their 20 meter kites. Hope this helps. And those posts about not being able to jump in 9-10 mphs of wind. I don't know where there coming from, its totally possible.

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