I think we honor Silke Gorldt by taking special time to review and improve our safety in this sport. I encourage us all to now discuss safety issues that could help avoid tragedies like the one that took Silke.
Of course, the issue of quick releases on depower loops is huge. On this subject, I would appreciate feedback on a modified safety set up that I'm considering.
I am looking to use a Da Kine Reactor bar that has a Ronstan shackle added for the depower loop. This set up allows one to also use the main harness loop if desired. Here are two photos that show the general idea:
Only I want to use this set up with the X2 bar. Instead of having the depower loop attached to the shackle by a metal ring, I want to attach the quick release depower loop that comes with the X2. A person using the pictured set up said that should work fine. It adds one more way of getting out of the chicken loop besides relying on the Ronstan shackle.
Isn't it dangerous that the safety leash is attached to the release pin? With a loose safety leash dashing around when sailing, I can imagine that it may ocationally release the depower in unwanted situations?
And is it possible to choose between the depower line and the safety line in emergency situations?
Hmm, maybe it is, 'cause the depower is tight and the safety not offcourse.
But I think I would make some knots on the safety line, so it would be easier to select.
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I think that if you let go and unhook all that happens on this set up would be that the kite now flies fully powered up with the bar out of your reach. If the safety is tied to both front lines you just gave it more power no? Also using the safety that way would cause involuntary release if you spun the bar and it looped the safety enough it ould cause your chicken loop to release with the "safety?" now looped several times around the bar.
Thanks John for posting a photo and explaination of the kite control bar. We need lots more development and swapping of ideas for kite leash systems and control bars. It would be great to see many more systems and ideas for more functional and reliable leash systems. I have heard about them, this would be a great time to both see and talk about these new designs further.
If you want a system like that, with the leash tied to the release trigger you would be better of using a tyalska shackle.. With the tyalska you have to pull toward your body to relase thus accidental pulling on the leash toward the kite won't release. In your system it will. With a tyalska you can use shock cord inside tubular webbing for the leash and it will always be pull somewhat towards the kite.
GÃƒÂ¨, you are right, that some quick releases don't open 100%, but there are some doing this. Wichard produces one and I'm using it.
The one shown on the pic is one, that doesn't open, if you use a rope or plastic tubing around a rope. Because at the eye it gets bigger and there it will stop under full pressure, so it doesn't release.
But here he used a metal ring and this works 100%, because it can't stop at the wider eye.
Also I'm pretty sure that he attached the safety to one depower line only, and this way it can open without any pressure.
Thanks Toby, that's the information I was looking for. Now I know not to hook my X2 quick release depower loop into this Ronstan shackle. I still like the idea though and wonder which shackle to use that will totally release the depower loop under pressure. Do you thing the Wichard shackle would be good for this? Does anyone know where I can get those in the USA? Also Toby please one other question: What about using the pictured set up except with a better shackle, the X2 depower loop (as discussed above) AND ALSO USING THE X2 LEASH CONNECTED TO SPREADER BAR INSTEAD OF ATTACHED TO SHACKLE PIN?
the shackle above will work with an iron ring as shown. The Wichard will work without metal, so you can hook the depower loop directly in.
I have now idea where to get the Wichard in the US.
To be safer, I wouldn't attach the safety the shackle. It will be fine somewhere at the harness.