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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2002 4:13 pm
I'm still not sure which X2 sizes I should get. I used the classical combos of kites usually: Naish 7.5 - 11.5 - 15.5 or Wipika 11.8 - 8.4 - 6.3 so far.

For lighter winds I use the Flysurfer Warrior 16.5, because I don't like big tubes.

My problem is, what kite sizes should I get. Maybe, you guys out there, can help me.

My thoughts for the X2:
(no size bigger than 16 is rule number 1, no size smaller than 8 is rule number 2)

1.) 16 - 12 - 8
Good classical combo. Problem: I don't like the 7.5 Naish AR5, but I am used to fast kites (Airblast 6.3). When you would need the 8, it would be maybe better to not use an X2 at all (safety).

2.) 16 - 12 - 10
The 12-10 doesn't make sense on the first, but then I would say that when you need a kite smaller than 10, I wouldn't go kiting anymore.

Main kiting spots: Silvaplana with some of the steadiest winds you can get for 16-12 sizes.

I basically only need a smaller size for vacation (mainly Fuerteventura Flagbeach), where winds don't get too strong. How to maximize my time on the water?

My board: Litewave 148 with bindings

Hope you can help me out.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2002 6:33 pm
Just trying to push the topping up again :wink:

Toby, what do you think?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2002 11:15 pm
by Sake
Why don't you consider an intermediate kite for the smallest kite.

At Yahoo a guy has X2's in bigger sizes but loves his Toro's in smaller sizes.
More then once I read the remark that X2's <10m are way to fast to have fun. This remark also came from a dutch professionel(2nd best of the Netherlands)

I got a Toro8 and really love it. I have as comparison a AB2001 6.3/AB2002 6.3 and my "previous" Rhino9.3

In "big" sizes I would go for 2002AB's. What a difference compared to 2001AB's.

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2002 1:41 am
by phree
I have the X2 8 and 10 and find them to be super fun kites. The first day I rode the 10 I went upwind faster and further than I ever have. My jumps immediately improved, too. I don't know but I'm not experiencing any problems with the X2 being TOO fast. Someone else made a point that it might be wise to make your quiver of kites of the same type rather than mixing brands and types. I don't know~ food for thought, I guess. Like Meatloaf once said: "Anything will work if you let it!". :wink:

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2002 8:41 am
by Guest
I have been using a 10 and 14 X2 for about a month. I previosuly owned a 7.5, 9.5 and 13.5 ARX.

The X2's main qualities are that they fly fast, turn fast and depower HEAPS. They have much more top-end range that the ARX because they fly to the edge of the window fast, and depower heaps.

I have found, that I have no desire to have an X2 smaller than the 10. I have used it in gusts to 35 without too much stress. It turns as quick as the old 7.5 and can probably be depowered to handle a similar max wind range.

The 14 is great, and you definately don't need a size in between. I have found that these kites have less low end grunt - but they can still generate heaps of power but only because they flay and turn quick. Previously, my bioggest kite was the 13.5. Now I hav and X2 (and smaller tray style board) I want a bigger kite than the 14). All reports are that the 20 is a sweet kite. I have heard quite a few times that it flys and turns as fast as the old 13.5 and can be depowered and ridden over 15 knots no probs. I am getting a 20, becasue I think a 16 and even an 18 are too close to the 14.

If you want 3 kites, I'd think about 10, 14, 20.

if you want two kites, I'd get 10 + 14, or even 10 + 16.

If you live in a particularly windy areas and want to kite in wind over 30knots regularly, then get an 8, 12, 18.

I weight 85kgs, and use a 4'11 Mutant and 139 Mojo.


Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 5:37 pm
by Toby
Hi Robin,

DT sounds right, why not safe money and get the 10 and 14? Since you still have the Warrior 16.5 for light winds, you don't need a 16.
The 14 should have enough power for you to ride in winds starting at 10-12 knts.
The 10 flies great, not too fast, and I can hold it up to about 30 knts.

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 5:45 pm
When it comes to kites -> brain works no more -> money doesn't count anymore...

I decided for the 16 - 12 - 10 so far. Why?
- Warrior 16.5 for light winds
- Size 12s (Naish 11.5s or Airblasts 8.4) are always the best flying kites, you need to have one of the size
- 16 for Silvaplana main wind's strength kiting (16s are usually also great kites)
- 10 for kiting until kiting makes no fun anymore (better go with your girl-friend and make some love :wink:

Unfortunately the sizes bigger than 12 are very rare in Germany.

Does that somehow make sense? I'm still not sure :sad: