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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 11:42 pm 
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I was wondering what effect moving the back lines forward on the kite(toward the front lines) would have on steering speed. I have a 2002 black tip which turns slowly and would like to speed it up a bit without going to a longer bar. Any advice is appreciated.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 12:15 am 
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Moving the back lines further towards the front of the Kite Generally Slow it down.

I do this with my smaller OR Broncos.. A bit slower but not much

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 2:00 am 
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Moving the rear lines forward will give you more steering input for a
given bar movement but will proportionately increase the 'bar
pressure' - the amount of force required to turn, or sheet in, the kite.

If you are starting with a kite that has a lot of rear line tension the
increase in effort required to steer may make it feel slower turning.
On the other hand if you start with a kite that has very light rear line
loading (like my G-Arcs) then moving the rear attachment points
forward speeds up steering as I need to move the bar less (and the
extra effort required to do it does not rally affect the speed at which
I can pull the bar in to steer or sheet the kite.

One other thing to consider. Depending on how far forward you move
the rear lines you may significantly reduce the maximum angle of attack.
(the AoA acheived when rear lines are tight and fronts are slack) this
could not only slow down steering but change the characteristics when
fully sheeted in (in the case of some kites this could mean less max
power when fully sheeted in (assuming you have no restriction to bar
movement on your chicken loop line) - in the case of my G-Arcs it
would mean I can no longer stall the kite and back it down. Translating
this effect to one wingtip - you could end up with slower steering even
on a kite that normally has little rear line load.
To get a mental picture of how this works think about how it would
work at the extremes - if you moved the rear line attachment all the
way up to the front pigtail--you'd have no steering at all, if you moved it
an inch or so back you might get a little steering and sheeting - but it
would take a huge pull on the bar to acheive it.

Steve T

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