we make-um watch,,,land kites,,,be launch holders,, just basiclly have them hang around,,, and we talk about what the riders are doing out theretoyflish wrote:you are not to wrong, but whats about these guys I always have to teach, who book a kitelesson, never ever have taken a kite in their hands, and yust think that works like tennis....
maybee the question is - what should a good beginner do before he books a kitecourse?
Hi Toby,Toby wrote:we don't need to talk about using bigger kites in water.
We should never play with big kites on the beach.
But I know that you already can get the first feeling from flying a kite at the beach which will help you flying a bigger kite later.
You get to know where the kite has the most power and where it doesn't.
So pls don't tell us that using a small trainer kite at the beach won't help anything, it does help a lot!
Toby
fokiten wrote:Now look here,,,mutant wrote:fokiten,
The idea of using the services of an instrutor is to help you avoid the pain that the early kitesurfers went through. Also to speed the learning curve and avoid the potential dangers to yourself and others.
I agree that less talking is good because most people dont listen but take in far more by experience but a certain amount of verbal is necessary.
Perhaps you are lucky enough to be a natural at this sport but for the vast majority who are not, to just be dumped in the water with a potential killing machine is totally irresponsible.
I am a man of few words, as such I lay out the entire subject in a paragraph or less. usually less,,
The above objections dismissed as follows:
If you use the bar like a steering wheel NOTHING happens, so f*** beach training.
Beach trainig is for Instructors not students.
The kite power is minimized by your body dragging the water,,on land you have to run to get this shock abosbing benift,, f*** beach training
Beach trainig comes after kite control is achieved by hours in the water,,
Killing Machine,,,,,,,exactly,,,the water is the ONLY place to start,,
f*** beach training>>>$$$$ for instructors<<<>>>no useful lessons for student kitesurfing has NOTHING to do with itty bitty lightning fast dangerious to other people on the beach string weapons,,
TRUTH,,
get it????
The thing you forum posters cannot get around is that I know what Im talking about,,you don't like it,,,But tough shit you can not suprise me,, you can call me names but you can not fault my arguments because I know what I'm talking about,, and I do not Bull-shit..
I post the whole truth,,and you are deffenceless against it,,
Sweet God in heaven,,
fikiten
Good news Kol,,Kolahi wrote:I have a lot of respect for Fokiten and what he's saying but i just have one concern. How do you teach a person who's never in their life flown a kite, to fly it correctly without a trainer. I mean you could take him in the water and all, but he'll be crashing it like crazy im sure - unless you are relaunching it via that boat i see it's kind of difficult for him to learn.
That'd be cool if you WERE relauching it as he messed up then it would be perfect - even better than a trainer.
In my opinion a trainer kite is useful to learn how to TURN the kite - many people come from many years of driving and they cant break the habit- usually 30 minutes to an hour on a trainer to learn how to turn is not time wasted.
fokiten wrote:Good news Kol,,Kolahi wrote:I have a lot of respect for Fokiten and what he's saying but i just have one concern. How do you teach a person who's never in their life flown a kite, to fly it correctly without a trainer. I mean you could take him in the water and all, but he'll be crashing it like crazy im sure - unless you are relaunching it via that boat i see it's kind of difficult for him to learn.
That'd be cool if you WERE relauching it as he messed up then it would be perfect - even better than a trainer.
In my opinion a trainer kite is useful to learn how to TURN the kite - many people come from many years of driving and they cant break the habit- usually 30 minutes to an hour on a trainer to learn how to turn is not time wasted.
That is exactly what we do relaunch, relaunch, relaunch, and laugh our asses off,, scream out stroke the kite,,,feel the love,, you would be suprized how fast people learn not to crash , we hook a life jacket to a leash ,, as soon as they are stroken good we have them do board trainig,,,
one hand on the bar,,,get the life jacket put one foot on ,, then the other,,
seady steady,, like that thats how we do it,,
Fun day,, beer laughs,,stoked newbeis,,
fo
ps, steve ask any body? I do not read long posts
If ya want to commune with me you gotta keep it short,,
f*** off ,,, just in case,,go jiggle pinky
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