To my knowledge "Best" is voilating the ILE patent while top brands don't. Than not always patent it means u'll not be copied (cheap).Capitalism doesn't work like that. If you invent something patentable, then patent it. Otherwise, expect somebody else to copy the best parts of your business plan, and improve on the rest.
Graeme must be more in the know than most of us. There is a material shortage, which makes specific colors harder to acquire. Sourcing material cheaply is always important... but sourcing cheap material is not rational given potential PR issue and the big fat low hanging fruit call distribution. In general, when material is scarce, delivery is slow, but price does not creep up that much since I assume it's a temporary issue. Even if material prices spike 100%, that still does not in of itself explain Best business plan... the Big Brand kites cost more because of better material is truely a silly point used only between distributors and shopguy.Dax wrote:Graeme -
Its amazing to me that all of the kites coming out from Slingshot right now are primarily black. Wow and look at the Yargas, black. Seems like companies are being affected equally by the same material shortage. Seems like they are using the same materials. So much for that argument.
Best is their own distributor, and storefront, they have to have more employees to support this. If you added up all the guys distributing and selling Naish, I'd imagine that would be a lot of people, no?PAFF wrote:Takoon is made at the Neilpryde/Cabrinha faktory.
And Naish has less people woking than BEST....
Have you seen their office???
You guys have almost 99% off your data, that you base you diskussion on, wrong..
But ist fun too see you make BEST a small underdog, and Naish a giant.
North and Neilpryde are GIANT`s...
Caution Kites could be your loved underdog.
I find some of this hard to believe. Why can't the characteristics of fabric be tested in a lab? For example, material could be put under a uv lamp, 24/7 for a month or two to test its UV stability. Their are machines that could test it durablility by tugging it this way and that a hundred times per second.GraemeF wrote:
PJC Off the mark chum, the way it goes with some wonder new material, once its been checked to be colorfast, U.V. stable and weft and warp tolerances such that they'll not distort over time, a kite gets built, then tested, then tested again, then another and another, and so it goes on, decent team riders are required for this, ones who really can tell the difference in performance, then there's a time delay, to make certain there's no distortion, U.V. related crap. Testing new kites can be quite dangerous, it is certainly expensive and very time consuming.
If the stuff is good, generally the brand that developed it gets it exclusive for a year, before releasing it to the rest of the brands that might purchase at that factory
Having a network of enthusiastic owners of shops, prepared to risk there own money to stock and service local consumers. Selling a seasonal product in the early development stages of a sport which makes that product obsolete very quickly and therefore a risky undertaking, is precious, takes time to build and quickly is placed under pressure from other markets with better margin products. This network Naish will quite rightly defend to the last. As will the distributors who play a vital part in the global financing of a brand, especially in periods of rapid growth.
We should all accept a certain status quo, watch and hope if you will Bests progress, but it really is getting boring, watching folk make themselves look very silly, acting as evangelists of a very flawed religion.
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