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Re: pleaseeee help

Postby Toby » Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:44 pm

Yeah, what a paradise! But wind wasn't that good :-(

I learned without lessons...in 2000 not really available.

Taking lessons would have saved me a lot of time for sure! Luckily no injuries...we learned on two line kites and no quick release.

Different times then for sure!

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Re: pleaseeee help

Postby tautologies » Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:13 pm

vman wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:31 pm
windrider1 wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:30 pm
So now What would be your advise to a newbie .haha
Take a lesson hahaha! :lol: :lol:
Oh man that was a frustrating read. I am glad you learned and I am glad you survived.

Pretty much every time we've had someone who refuse to take lessons on a local beach they become a huge nuisance, and to some extent a danger, for people around them and the other kiters. They lack the safety basics, and everyone else has to pitch in to help them.

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Re: pleaseeee help

Postby ragzilla » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:10 am

meh.......
I learnt without lessons.
The learning curve was a long one.
It took a good solid summer season to figure out how to properly launch and waterstart.
But by the end of the season I was jumping.

so..... you don't "have" to take lessons.
But I'd advise that you at least ride with other people who can give you tips along the way.

depends really on your own skill and confidence.
Kiteboarding is dangerous...... statistically, I think their are probably more injuries & deaths from kiteboarding than skydiving....
I've got this theory though......

When the sport was younger, I believe there weren't as many deaths and major accidents.
you see..... the equipment was far more dangerous with less safety features. The only people who took up kiteboarding were the guys who were natural 'watermen'.
These are the guys who can swim for hours, are very confident playing around in big surf, have grown up on the water, and are completely confident on the water no matter the conditions.
So... when these guys got into trouble on the water, or had a big crash, they had the skill and experience to know how to get out of trouble and get back to shore.

As kiteboarding becomes more popular, and the gear becomes safer..... the sport has opened up to a lot of people who aren't natural waterman.
Rock up at your local busy spot..... have a look around..... how many of those people can surf, kite, scubadive, spearfish, sail and swim out to that bouy 300m offshore and back??......... maybe 10% if im being generous??
So now we have a majority of kiters on the water, who took lessons, follow all the correct ways of launching and landing, and respect the right of way on the water...... but they're not natural watermen. They're not going to be just as confident to jump pn a longboard and ride some 3m surf.

... and that's fine! that's great infact.... more people are kiting, more kiting infrastructure, the equipment gets better, the level of riding gets pushed and the sport grows. How awesome!!

That's my theory anyway.....
'if you're taking lessons, then you're probably not a waterman"
( hey Plummet..... did you take lessons??? -> rhetorical )
- haters gunna hate - potatoes gunna potate !!
Im guessing when ya'll took your lessons they told you not to try kiteloops until you've been riding for 5years!!

If you're confident, just do some research and figure the rest out. Half the fun is crashing anyway!
Launching & landing correctly is the most important part. That's where most accidents happen. So research the sh*t out of that and the rest you will figure out.
Make sure you've got the right gear for the job too. I grabbed the first cheap gear I could find and it held me back hardcore.
id been riding for 3 months and some guy at the beach asked me...
" where's your leash?" .......
" huh, whats a leash?"
lucky its not rock climbing or base jumping huh?

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Re: pleaseeee help

Postby vman » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:46 am

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Re: pleaseeee help

Postby vman » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:46 am

When I was learning to fly the kite, I did it in a secluded beach in Malaysia, usually after my windsurfing session. No one else was around I made sure of that. After awhile I got really good at fly the kite, doing jumps and all but all on the beach, just never know how to get on the board till a good friend told me to give it a go, I was up and riding upwind on the same day. Its all about kite control.

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Re: pleaseeee help

Postby tautologies » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:14 am

vman wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:46 am
When I was learning to fly the kite, I did it in a secluded beach in Malaysia, usually after my windsurfing session. No one else was around I made sure of that. After awhile I got really good at fly the kite, doing jumps and all but all on the beach, just never know how to get on the board till a good friend told me to give it a go, I was up and riding upwind on the same day. Its all about kite control.
See my take is: I would still say take a lesson, but if no one else can get injured, then in my book it'll be entirely up to you how you proceed.

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Re: pleaseeee help

Postby Toby » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:28 am

I agree ragzilla.
And let me add: back then people were more aware of dangers.
You didn't see anyone launch in front of objects or unstable conditions. We knew we had to be very careful.

Today you see so many people launching in front of obstacles with the board in their hand. Big no go back then.

And me riding a big kite and always powered up, still very aware of the risks and staying far away from obstacles.

Distance is your friend...I also learned my lessons the tough way. So having this rules constantly in my mind. Specially when launching and landing.

I also think I have the full control. But I know I don't!

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Re: pleaseeee help

Postby K-Roy » Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:11 pm

It depends on the person more than anything.
In my case for example, I had a friend, explaining the gear, lines, bodydrag, waterstart, etc., in 2 hours, and I took it from there all by my self.
Got a book, started to get really in to it. Have to say I learn more here on Kiteforum then anywhere else.
I know people, who take lessons two/three years in a row, and still have very little idea about the sport because for them its "only" for that vacation time once a year.
For me its part of my life, if not physically, mentally for sure...
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Postby Beardytello » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:36 pm

vman wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:43 am
thks for all the advice guys
the problem is that theres not much help i can get here, Singapore
i've done snowboarding, isit like snowboarding?
any info on setting up the lines?

thanks
Hey Vman,

I would seriously take lessons.

Make the effort, take a trip, it will be 100% worth it and it might just stop you dying / killing someone and ruining your life.

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Re: Re:

Postby Bille » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:02 pm

Beardytello wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:36 pm
vman wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:43 am
thks for all the advice guys
the problem is that theres not much help i can get here, Singapore
i've done snowboarding, isit like snowboarding?
any info on setting up the lines?

thanks
Hey Vman,

I would seriously take lessons.

...
You just quoted something written in Oct of 2004 ! :D

Bille


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