I was out totally underpowered on 14m the wind was gusty 8-14 knots. I got to shore and I pulled on one side of the bar alot and the leading lines went under the bar and got stuck there.I couldn't do anything with the kite the kite kept looping and by chance the wind kind of picked up before the accident to like 13-16 knots.I dragged very fast on to the beach and into the bushes that is when I tried to activate my QR which I couldn't because it was stuck now I'm on my stomach getting dragged through the bushes and I don't know why but my kite just kept looping in o not going any lower now there are small trees I get hit by a tree branch in the shoulder and my kite finally hits a tree the thing just pops the L.E and bunch of other cuts and then all the sudden it takes off from the tree ripping the kite I struggle to take control and then finally disided to you my other QR that has no leash built in I pull the thing out and the kite just plops down onto a short tree and I have this huge mess my wetsuit is ripped my kite is ripped. I was using a 2005 leash free bar from best. But the other QR didn't work because I put in a new pin because I lost the other one and the new one was way to big I'm guessing. Has this happened to anyone else. This was a very scary experince which was happend very fast before I could think of anything. I'm not going to use that bar ever again it is just a weird accident. But that is the second time that has happend to the other time the lines went slack when I was turning so the leading edge lines went around the bar and the kite looped but that was when out there 300m out and just hit the water I didn't think it can happen again. I will put a demonstration of how it happened in a short clip. My tip don't pull one side of the bar all the way so it reaches the le lines thats how it tangles then the kite starts looping.

windyboy,

Thank goodness you made it back without serious
injuries to write about the whole experience.
I think the 'Best' quick releases with the webbing/rope and a pin
are hard to activate. See other posts about this on this forum.

be thankful you didn't get ripped, who cares about the gear!
You could be dead by now...

Thx for sharing. And pls post a clip, since I don't really understand how it happend. Were you using the gear as you should or did you do anything you shouldn't...specially being on shore.

Replacing parts on a bar with not originals can be fatal...I was involved in the development of two bar systems and you have no clue what can happen if things are not correct or the wrong material...

Don't save on your life, don't be cheap, buy something that has been proven to work. As far as I know Best will have a very good release coming soon. Then everyone should upgrade their bars. Also the releases from other bars are excellent now. Don't ride with old stuff, kites and boards can be old, but not the safety. There is a step in development every year, keep it updated!

It is not smart dying due to save 200 bucks...

Greets
Toby

Safety is important. Kiting is dangerous.

I recalled seeing your posts in the past about other incidents. Here is what I found with a quick search. I'm not trying point out every mistake just that there is a clear trend.

It wouldn't hurt to get with the local crew and get some help. They will enjoy having a grom around. Its ok to go out and hurt yourself, but its not to go out and hurt the sport by taking out civilians. Getting dragged a shore is a great way to do that.

http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopi ... ht=#336826

http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2325456

http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2320582

http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2323477

Wow, you are having your share of incidents. You had a scarey one a couple weeks ago, right?

I really like safety systems that are easy as close to fool-proof as possible. For the past few years I used the OR Punch-out system. It was great from a safety perspective because I could instanly be unhooked by simply pushing the bar away. Then if necessary I could flag the kite on an outside line.

Now I use the GK Sonic bar on my Sonics and Waroos. I can instantly get near 100% depower simply by dropping the bar. It works great and is as safe as it gets.

I suggest you consider something like these systems.

Ed

windyboy, please take a lesson or get some professional kiting help

your gunna get the beach closed to us someday

yeah, you're lucky to still be here writing about your accident



indeed, you seem to have some bad luck.

like ed says... the sonic's safety built inherintly into the system you just let go of the bar. no power.

maybe something along these lines will help offset your accidental tendencies.

not knowing how to correctly fly a kite is far and away from Bad Luck.

seriously ... get a lesson .. talk to your instructor about your recent trends and find a way to properly pilot your kite. a bow kite *might* help as they do provide a lot more leeway for certain types of mistakes. NOTE that i said "certain types" because its still a big fat kite harnessed to your body and you are responsible for it.

a seasoned instructor will be able to go over what was done wrong, show you ways to correct it, and you (and everyone within 200 yards of you) will be happier because of it.

Not trying to rag on you man.. and its a good thing that you post your problems/accidents here because this is the place where you can get good, sound advice. There are a number of guys in my local area that picked up kiting quickly and are tearing it up. others that just cant seem to get the groove on how and what to do. weeks and weeks go by and they crash and burn all the time. everyone has their own pace and if you are constantly putting yourself (and others) in dangerous positions you definitely need some additional lessons to speed up the learning curve.

kite safe! kite smart!!

-Bryan

windy...you need to seriously rethink some of the things your doing or not doing. Others are picking up real quick that these aren't isolated incidences, but a possisble trend.

i also remember reading a post of yours talking about riding your 14m inflato on land with a land board practicing handle passes without a leash. in this example, i would ask you to name 3 things wrong with this picture. if you can't, bad things may continue for you.

D Clark....you're spot on.

you've got a lot of great role models around the chicago area.

just trying to save yourself and others from future problems.

Toyletbowl I was using a leash when I was land boarding and had lot of downwind space like 300-400 meters and the leash ripped when I let go. I agree it was my bad disusion to hook the leash as a sucide leash I agree it was my fault but this was just a accident that could have happend to anyone. I will post up a clip of what happened soon. Also one question how do you post a small clip.