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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2002 1:48 pm 
Hey Murdoc,

You must have read the GQ. Jeff Hackman stated that there is nothing you can do on the water that is as extreme as Kiteboarding, except Tow-In perhaps.

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does he?


no ... i read a big article about tow-in in a surfer's mag ....

GQ writes about kiteboarders?


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Seems to be nice idea to use Hydrogen. Iy might relaunchibility.

Let me know the result when you try it.

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Ok guys,
For all yo hot heads out there I found you some pics on http://www.historicwings.com of the first ever hydrogen filled kite, was also the biggest kite that has ever flown:

http://www.vidicom-tv.com/tohiburg.htm


Hot stuff eh?


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now let's get serious:

if anyone of you wants to try to fill his kite with something else than usual air:


FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T USE HYDROGEN!!!!!!!

as far as my knowledge goes, it reacts with oxygene and produces a stuff that will explode VERY easily.

the static charges of the bladders might be enough and if not, you'll put your environment into serious danger while inflating / deflating your kite.

there are chaeper and safer substaces, such as helium.

don't even think about hydrogene if you don't want to get a mention at the darwin awards!


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as far as my knowledge goes, it reacts with oxygene and produces a stuff that will explode VERY easily.

The stuf produced is water, not really explosive stuff :wink:

Hydrogen mixed with oxigen in the right porportion is highly explosive.

A balloon filled with 100% Hydrogen isn't a bomb, it can't explode, it's just something that burns up fast when ignited from the outside, a spark from inside can't ignite it because the lack of oxigen...

Its indeed saver to use helium, but you don't have to panic by the mention of hydrogen :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 12:22 am 
There are pictures at this site of Manu Bertin kitesurfing at the North Pole with a kite filled with helium.

http://www.kite-surf.com/galleries/inde ... anu_bertin

or http://www.kite-surf.com/galleries/index2.php
and scroll down to Manu Bertin


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 5:14 am 
I can't beleive nobody has posted anything about what might happen when a hydrogen-filled tube kite Hindenburgs.


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Re: I can't beleive nobody has posted anything about what might happen when a hydrogen-filled tube kite Hindenburgs.

I thought I did, yesterday, perhaps twas just a dream, but no, lo behold.....


"Ok guys,
For all yo hot heads out there I found you some pics on http://www.historicwings.com of the first ever hydrogen filled kite, was also the biggest kite that has ever flown:

http://www.vidicom-tv.com/tohiburg.htm


Hot stuff eh?"


Seriously people, joking is fine but don't do it. Nobody uses hydrogen for ballooning anymore, many people have died in the past, watch the Hindenburgh vid at the link above, she was the biggest thing that has ever flown about 3 times bigger than the Titanic which was a pretty hefty motha by all accounts and never even got one meter of the ground.
Only difference, the Titanic took a few hours to go down, the Hindenburgh took 34 seconds. Went down in flames and killed a buncha folks.
Besides no one uses even helium anymore for kiting, don't make any difference, just get a bigger kite or a bigger board for lighter winds.

Stay away from Hydrogen it's true that it isn't that dangeous alone but in the right hydrogen/air mix it will burn your fingers.

Watch the vid

Have fun and stay safe.
Jo


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Is methane lighter than air???

If so then that may be a better and cheaper alternative...

Is Helium really cheaper than Hydrogen?

BLOWN AWAY :evil:


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