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Postby BullsShit.com » Fri May 04, 2007 2:21 pm

ZUGSPITZE, Germany (Reuters) -- The winds are cold at any time of the year on Germany's highest mountain but the country's last glacier is melting away despite Herculean efforts to counter the effects of climate change.

Spreading giant anti-glare shields over the glacier each April after piling tons of loose snow upon it, workers at the Zugspitezebahn cable car operator are fighting a losing battle to keep their glacier alive -- for business and ecology reasons.

"We're doing all we can to preserve it as long as possible, but I'm not God and there's only so much we can do," said Frank Huber, the manager of cable car and skiing operations on the 2,962-meter peak in the northern Alps.

"I grew up with the glacier and it's sad to think one day my children's children won't know what it feels or looks like."

The effort to stave off the demise of the Zugspitze is considerable, but begs the question why Germany, the world's sixth largest producer of greenhouse gases, does not do more to tackle the cause of the problem instead.

In her speeches, German Chancellor Angela Merkel often cites the Zugspitze's state -- predicting the national treasure may be gone within 20 years -- as an argument for the industrial world to take bolder action against climate change.

Scientists say global warming is responsible for the melting ice. U.N.-funded panels of scientists say heat-trapping gases from burning fossil fuels are nudging up temperatures.

A minority of scientists dismisses global warming, arguing natural climate fluctuations are responsible.

"It would be more than a shame if the glacier disappears," Huber said.

As an early warning "global thermometer", glaciers are extremely sensitive to climate change. One of the world's most threatened eco-systems, they have been shrinking since the start of the industrial age.

Their retreat has gathered pace in the last quarter-century, as documented in stunning "before and after" photographs. The Zugspitze was 80 meters thick in 1910. Now it is only 45.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), set up by the United Nations, has said glaciers are endangered: "Small Alpine glaciers will disappear while larger glaciers will suffer a volume reduction between 30 percent and 70 percent by 2050."

The melting of the frozen ice is more than just the loss of picturesque mountain scenery. Without glaciers, scientists say summertime water levels in European rivers would drop. Much of the Rhine River water in the summer comes from glacier melting.

For the last 14 years at Zugspitze, Huber and his staff have spread a giant tarpaulin to deflect the sun, keep the surface cool and shield it from the corrosive warm summer rain.

The shield, expanded this year by 50 percent to 9,000 square meters, is due to come out within days. The operators say it will preserve 30,000 cubic meters of snow -- roughly equivalent to a football-field-sized building that is one-storey high.

"The shield helps slow the process," said Huber. "It reflects the sun and helps ice form beneath it. But that and all the other things we're doing are only going to slow the process down a little bit. We aren't going to be able to save it."

During the winter, workers also use explosives to set off controlled avalanches on surrounding slopes to push snow onto the glacier. They erect rows of fences -- as farmers do -- on especially exposed parts to slow wind erosion.

Some critics say this is a waste of time and money, especially as the tarpaulin only covers a relatively small section of the glacier. Its main aim is to preserve the ski area and the Zugspitze as a glacier for marketing reasons, they say.

"The coverings won't save the glacier because they only shield a small area for winter sport," said Markus Weber, meteorologist and glacier expert at the Bavarian Academy of Sciences in Munich. "It's expensive and the impact is limited."

Huber agreed tourism is the driving force.

"The Zugspitze lives from tourism," he said, noting that last winter skiers frustrated by a lack of snow in lower altitudes fled to the reliable conditions on the glacier.

"Our goal is to keep the skiing operations going and that's why we're trying to protect the snow," said Huber, who has spent 24 years working on the glacier. "It's our lifeblood."

No one will say exactly how much the preservation efforts cost -- but they do say the investment is considerable.

About 500,000 tourists take the cable-car or cog rail car to the peak from village of Garmisch-Partenkirchen each year.

Huber said that as a result of climate change they stopped gouging half-pipes for snowboarders into the glacier. They lost customers in the process, which hit the bottom line.

But he said the alternative was worse.

"We realized if we kept digging the half-pipes, the glacier might be gone in 10 rather than 20 years," he said.

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Postby Galeltic » Fri May 04, 2007 5:02 pm

Our beloved earth would be cloned mars ! one day

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Postby Mulholland » Fri May 04, 2007 7:11 pm

Nonsense...I love how that article says a "minority of scientists dismiss G/W"...This is an outright lie. In fact many of the so-called UN scientists weren't even scientists, and a bunch of them had their names used even though they did not agree...There is big big government money and private grants available to G/W proponents. There is very little money available to opponents of G/W...$$$$=G/W

1. Mars is heating simultaneous to the earth heating.
2. The earth has gone through many heating cycles.
3. The earth produces over 95% of green-house gasses.
4. The current heating cycle began BEFORE major human contributions.
5. The envirommentalist alarmists are liars.
6. The environmentalist alarmists care more for the earth than humans.
7. Pollution is bad, but no energy is worse.
8. Oil is natural.
9. Ethanol is more polluting than fossil fuels.

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Postby waimanu » Fri May 04, 2007 8:22 pm

Global Warming is real. I have spent years building emissions monitoring and reporting systems for large U.S. companies, including energy companies. The type, quantity and concentration of pollutants that our factories, coal-fired utilities and mobile sources produce is unprecedented and is rapidly accelerating natural heating. China, India and other developing countries will contribute to this as well, and frankly it is very distressing. It is astonishing to me that there are still nay-sayers. I agree that we need energy, but we also need better fuel standards and better alternative energy technology all-around to address this massive problem.

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Postby mad » Fri May 04, 2007 8:40 pm

Mulholland,

I think the oil lobby would tend to disagree with your assertion that there is little money available for the anti G/W agenda......with statements like this any credibility you may have goes up in smoke and nothing you purport can be taken seriously....

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Postby Mulholland » Fri May 04, 2007 9:03 pm

It is a matter of fact. There is hugely more money available to proving that G/W is man-made. The moment you prove otherwise, your money dries up, the G/W fundamentalists attack you, and you get ridiculed.

It is near fascist. Why are the G/W proponents afraid of debate? What do they have to hide?...If they had a strong case for G/W, we would see debate, instead all we see is preaching, propaganda and holier than thou pronouncements like "it is settled"...it is not settled, in fact this myth of man-made G/W falls to pieces upon inspection.

30 years ago the "consensus" was that the ice age was coming. Everybody agreed. It was settled...Now the enviro fear merchants are selling this lie that we are causing G/W, it is simply a lie...The earth has cooled and warmed ever since the beginning, the sun is most responsible for it.

As we speak both the sun and mars are warming simultaneously, suggesting the sun creates the warming.

Besides, there is no proof, only theory, that a warming globe is bad...These enviro-alarmists, if they were objective, would have to understand that not only bad happens from a warming globe, but good also...More agricultural land, more bikinis, less snow and ice.

Polar ice caps?...Who gives a flying crap?...The ice caps on Antarctica are getting bigger.

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Postby Mulholland » Fri May 04, 2007 9:07 pm


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Postby mad » Fri May 04, 2007 9:25 pm

I agree, it's not all bad. In fact, in Saskatchewan, people sit around burning tires and throw in chunks of styrofoam in order to try and speed the process up.

Disclaimer: That was joke, not meant to offend those of you actually in Sask.

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Postby joff » Fri May 04, 2007 9:27 pm

i saw that programme too and i agree it has some interesting points....especially about environmentalism to a large extent becoming the only way to express oposition to capitalism now. But it is a TV programme and is completely sensationalised. it watches like a conspiracy theory and many of those interviewed have their own particular axes to grind with this. Dont be too taken in by the programme...theres been a hell of alot of criticism of the making of this show and alot of it for good reason. Dont take it as proof that you can stop giving a sh*t......

now, wheres that long haul plane ticket?...Im going on holiday!


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