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Postby Essaouira » Wed May 23, 2007 2:27 pm

I have a North bar 2007 4 lines, I've added the 5th line yesterday, but I cannot try it becaus there's no wind.
The north 07 bar comes with a long depower, but I don't know if it will action on the kite given me more depower than with the original Matrix bar.

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Postby Wetstuff » Wed May 23, 2007 5:34 pm

Essa: Sorry I was away from the computer. The video shows - I think - the 5th attached to the harness. Mine was run thru the hole in the bar ..down to a pulley (block) connected to the kite side of chicken loop ...and then the lines runs back up to the bar where I had a cleat. With the cleat I could adjust line tension.

I also started to make a bridle like you guys on one of the eary 2-line Whippys but ..got distracted. It seemed the 2-line kite was a real powerhouse but could really use a decent bridle.

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Postby Gigi;) » Thu May 24, 2007 12:13 pm

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Essaouira wrote:Wetstuff do you mean the same system of the matrix 06??? like on this movie???? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4qtsIoa94U I tried it on the same model than the movie, it works, I have just put the 5th line on the 05 model I'll try this week end how does it work :thumb:

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Postby Essaouira » Thu May 24, 2007 3:22 pm

YEAH this is exactly what i tought but I've in mind a little modification:
The 5th line will be connected to the harnes with a pulley, so as you push your bar this one pull the 5th line givin you more depower, tihs system will not be avaible for unhooking but I think that its the cheapest manner to get depower on the kite.

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Postby KiteSurfingKen » Thu May 24, 2007 4:15 pm

I setup a bar with the Active 5th line pulley as you describe for my 16M BFK.
I did not like it because if you release the bar, the kite returns to full power (quickly), You have to keep pushing the bar away to maintain your depower.

I also found the setup was complex, meaning more things to go wrong, get tangled, etc.

With the swept wingtips, I think you would have more success adding the SLE style bridle to the kite than using this style bar.

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Postby Essaouira » Thu May 24, 2007 4:22 pm

KiteSurfingKen wrote: if you release the bar, the kite returns to full power (quickly), You have to keep pushing the bar away to maintain your depower.
:idea:
I think that the SLE bar will not work because the kite will not be stable and it will keeping power in gusty conditions, so maybe another solution will be better. :?:

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Postby BWD » Fri May 25, 2007 3:18 am

Don't tie any kite rigging to the harness, please.
Maybe try tying the pulley to the chicken loop not the harness.
Basically a copy of the RRD system.
Not ideal but safer and it works.
I ride that way, it's ok but takes getting used to.
If the hole in the bar is too small, clamp a fairlead on and run all the lines through it. Search old posts "dynamic depower" and "trimmable 5th" by me and others.
Or simplest, just mount a cleat where the pulley is and trim the 5th manually, no pulley. Needs more attention while kiting but less tangles when you crash.
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Postby Gigi;) » Fri May 25, 2007 10:48 am

yes, that's it. :)

I would also advise to attach the pulley on QR, to have cleaner setup.

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Essaouira wrote:YEAH this is exactly what i tought but I've in mind a little modification:
The 5th line will be connected to the harnes with a pulley, so as you push your bar this one pull the 5th line givin you more depower, tihs system will not be avaible for unhooking but I think that its the cheapest manner to get depower on the kite.

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Postby Essaouira » Fri May 25, 2007 11:05 am

BWD wrote:Don't tie any kite rigging to the harness, please..
Be sure that I'll never do it :thumb:

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Postby Essaouira » Fri May 25, 2007 11:09 am

Gigi;) wrote:I would also advise to attach the pulley on QR, to have cleaner setup.
your are right the setup will be ceaner, it's the same system that BWD mentioned.
Thanks :thumb:

But the problem is that the 5th line will be pulling always the bar to full power like kitesurfngKen said :cry:

I must look for anothe setup :idea:


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