but suferA there is a great variance in riding positions during certain maneuvers (load and pop e.g. where its critical to have the bar very close to the body to maximize power) and different folks require different size loops to be able to get it in the right spot given differences in arm lengths.
adjustable loops are just as critical (if not more so than board lengths)
so manufacturers listen up!!
Sckland got the point I was making and said it clearly down and dirty. Thanks for that.
Sorry I totally disagree, and now im only saying what i think, but i know what im saying cause this is what i live for and from. And cause i studied biomechanics in university and is my proffesion.
Yes, there is a "wrong position" of riding. The problem is that this is a young sport and there is nothing scientific writen yet about this issues.
Dont u think there is a wrong "golf swing" position, or "skiing position"?
This is the same. There is a position, were u can maximize control, efortless. This is studied by ergonomics and biomechanics.
A position with the bar too close to the body is "wrong" cause it changes all the effectivenes of muscular structure or a right stance.(no pain in the back, neck etc)
Example, if you pull your bar close to the hips your back is doing some force to keep the bar close, so u are changing the point where the forces balance on your back spine, this also means your legs are forced to be more stiff and straight.
(if u ride with the bar close and bending legs. it will look really uncool and i am shure thats not the right way.)
There is a "right position technique of riding".
The difference between riders reside on style, the technique is the same for every kiter, the style is the personal interpretation of technique.
Its like caligraphy, each of us have ours but the words and letters are the same.
You are missing the point my friend. There is no need to argue your point as I am not in disagreement with the merits of biomechanics and that there are more efficient ways to do almost anything. That is not the point I am making. The point is that you could not possibly know how I ride, what my style is, what size I am, what maneuvers I do, what injuries I have, as well as a million other variables; so to assume that you somehow know I am riding in the "Wrong" position because I want the ability to bring the bar in close to my body is just plain ignorant of all those variables. I want kite manufacturers to realize that there is a need to bring the bar in tight to the body for a lot of people, so please offer that level of adjustability when designing quick releases.
Have you ever ridden toe-side on a wave leaning well away from the kite? It does have the tendency to shorten your arms and bring the bar in tight to your hip as you lean away from the kite. That is only one small tidbit in the whole scheme of variables you have missed.
Even if I were to explain all the variables to you so that you might get a picture of the mechanics involved of why I like the bar in close to me at times it still would not satisfy your approach, because you think there is a right way to do it. The "right way" is only relative to your position and viewpoint. On a very simple level I have been kiting for many many years back in the day of two line kites with no depowering ability at the bar, you just needed to dig in and edge your board to depower the kite a little, which is probably a lot longer than you have been kiting, so I have developed my own style and way that I like to ride. I am not interested in changing the way I ride at this point, even if there was indeed a more efficient way of doing it.
So for me there is no wrong way of doing it. If it works for you to be bio-mechanically in the correct position for your body type and your set of circumstances that is great, have fun! That is what works for you. But to put that out as that is the "correct position" for everyone is just nonsense. I kiteboard for the sheer enjoyment of doing it, and have no interest in competing, conforming to any idea of a certain style, or method of riding. My goal is to enjoy myself and I do that quite well without the need of conforming to a certain position or way of riding. Be at peace that your way works for you, and that you have the passion you do about biomechanics. At sometime you will find out that what works for you doesn't necessarily work for other people because they are different than you.
I would encourage you to make it OK that people do what they do for the reasons they do it, and that your judgment or assessment of why they do it differently than you is not always correct. There is an old saying about not judging a man until you walk a mile in his shoes. That means don't project yourself and your circumstances into a situation you know nothing about.
Tiger Woods may have the perfect biomechanical swing, and it works for his body type, lack of injuries, and circumstances of wanting to be a professional golfer. There are likely less than 1% of the world's population that would fit that model, so to assume his perfect biomechanical swing is the "right" swing for the 99% who find themselves in vastly different circumstances is naive. If there is a "right" position or way to kite, it would be to do it the way that works best for the person involved, and not some imposed idea of how it "should" be done.