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Cabrinha Crossbow IDS

Postby Toby » Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:25 am

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CROSSBOW IDS

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The Crossbow IDS launches Cabrinha into an entirely new era of Performance Freeriding by raising the standard of kite control and handling yet again. At the heartbeat of this new design is our innovative Intelligent Depower System (IDS) technology.

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The Crossbow IDS delivers in all areas of power and range of use that you would expect from a Cabrinha Freeride kite. We have implemented a Dynamic Arc progression, which reduces the flatness of the arc as the kite size gets smaller. The larger sized kites have the flattest arcs and highest aspect ratios for light wind efficiency and a wider wind range. The smaller kite sizes have a conservative arc and lower aspect ratios for control and handling in stronger winds. This unique design progression makes the Crossbow a chameleon when it comes to challenging wind conditions. Fast flying, quick turning and a wide wind range blow the doors wide open for high performance riding in any type of discipline or conditions.

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WHAT'S NEW: CROSSBOW IDS

- All new freeride design
- Intelligent Depower System
- Dynamic Arc Progression
- Powerdrive IDS Control System
- Light Bar Pressure
- New Durability Measures
- Improved airlock airflow

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FEATURES: CROSSBOW IDS

- IDS Bridle
- Absolute Depower
- Powerdrive IDS
- Dynamic Arc Progression
- Sprint
- Improved LE Closing seam
- Tuning Options
- Ultra bomb canopy reinforcement
- Flat seams
- New bridle pulleys
- New pulley bridle line
- Industry leading QR
- Improved airlock valve
- Sizes: 16, 13, 11, 10, 9, 7

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NEW TECHNOLOGY: IDS (INTELLIGENT DEPOWER SYSTEM)

The Intelligent Depower System (IDS) provides an amazing level of control with minimum rider effort and input. IDS is a simplified bridle and control system exclusive to Cabrinha. IDS produces virtually no bar pressure while delivering precise control of the steering and power of your kite.

IDS is so intuitive that it seamlessly provides 2 stages of depower. Interactive Depower on Demand while riding, and an Absolute Depower method to land your kite. Absolute Depower functions similar to a 5th line system, but without the complexity of the unnecessary 5th line. Our IDS equipped kites use only 4 lines for a simple, uncluttered method of control and security. Additionally, the IDS bridle maintains all of the instant relaunch functionality the Cabrinha kites are famous for.

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POWERDRIVE IDS CONTROL SYSTEM

The Powerdrive IDS is equipped to take advantage of our new Intelligent Depower System features. With Powerdrive IDS you now have complete control of your kite whether it is flying powered up, or resting completely depowered on the water or land. Our two stage depower works like this:

Depower on Demand: 1st stage depower
Depower on demand allows the rider to interactively power and depower the kite. By pushing the control bar away from the rider the kite depowers. When the bar is near its stopping point, the kite will depower and immediately begin to fall from the sky. It will land on the water or land with very little power or pull on the rider.

Absolute Depower: 2nd stage depower
By activating Absolute Depower, the kite will flip onto its back and diffuse any remaining power left in the kite. This is especially useful when self landing a kite on the water or land.

FEATURES: POWERDRIVE IDS

Soft EVA Bar Ends
The Powerdrive IDS is the only bar on the market with soft EVA multifunction ends. The EVA ends create a seamless transition from the center of the grip all the way to the ergonomic, protective ends. This provides added comfort when doing aggressive turns at the ends of the bar. The ergonomic geometry of the bar ends also serve as line winders to adequately manage your line set.

Lower Pivot Point
The soft EVA ends have allowed us to lower the pivot point of the steering lines right down to the bar. This reduces the turning impulse required to steer your kite.

Flotation
The EVA bar ends have sufficient buoyancy to float the control bar and lines, allowing us to eliminate the cumbersome external floats for an even more streamline, uncluttered look and feel.

No Pulleys
The new Powerdrive IDS control system is completely void of any pulleys. The IDS equipped kites all work on a direct 1:1 method of control. This produces virtually no bar pressure, and leaves the bar free of added lines and pulleys.

Proven Quick Release
Industry leading QR. Safety is and integral part of the Cabrinha design culture. This is why we have used the same quick release method for three years running. Our quick release has very little moving parts and is not susceptible to salt or sand. We do not try to make our QR perform any other function than to “Quickly Release”. It is easy to activate with a right or left hand, whether the kite has power or not. Its simple.....Time tested.....Proven.

QR2
If at anytime during the Absolute Depower process (after the main QR has been activated) you need to completely separate yourself from your kite, you can pull the secondary QR where the landing line attaches to the harness loop.

WHAT'S NEW: POWERDRIVE IDS

- New Streamlined Design. Less clutter
- Below the Bar IDS activation
- Soft EVA Bar Ends
- Quick Link
- Lower Pivot Point
- No Pulleys
- Left / Right designation. Red and Gray coloring

Photo Credits: Tracy Kraft

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Re: Cabrinha Crossbow IDS

Postby ronnie » Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:37 pm

Having only seen the PDF before, the illustration in it shows the front lines much closer together than they are in the pictures, which eases my concerns about the new bridles not supporting the tips of the kite.

I'm surprised they do not make more of the fact that they now have a proper spinning leash safety system - at last.

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Re: Cabrinha Crossbow IDS

Postby Steve Martin » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:23 pm

Will Airtime's new orange bladders come with the new kite, or will the new bladder be an option to come from the factory?

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Re: Cabrinha Crossbow IDS

Postby kitezilla » Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:07 pm

It won’t be long now, before we will be getting user reports on the functionality and safety of the new “four line with fifth line function” control systems such as that on the new Cabrinha and North kites.

I have put out a request on the 2 NW kite forums, that reports on the new control “safety” system be posted. Hopefully, someone will test the feasibility and safety of the “deep-water self-rescue” procedure needed to bring these kites down and get them in hand, during an emergency self-rescue.

Here are the threads to follow, for those interested in this unique and possibly “ground-breaking” new kite control system.

http://www.nwkite.com/forums/t-8653.html

http://pskite.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1 ... e6a0f89f35


So far, Cabrinha has not referred to the IDS as a “safety” system, and North has implied in their ad for the Evo, that the 5th line system is still the safest.

Here is a copy of my request, which I posted on the above forums:

“For those of you Puget Sound Kite participants and lurkers, who have an interest in all things kite-technical, here is a link to a thread, on NWKite forum (including a link to Kiteforum), where the new Cabrinha IDS kite control system is discussed.

http://www.nwkite.com/forums/t-8653.html

Here is a copy of my request, posted on that forum, which I would like to extend to viewers of this forum:

"Here is the short version of my request that someone demo the new IDS system and report back to us:

The IDS control system is being promoted as having “4-line bridle kite simplicity with 5th-line safety.” The system appears to be very similar to that of the 2007 F-one Delta-C kite, and appears to be the same as that of the new North Evo.

My request is that someone investigate this feature of the new Cabrinha IDS kite. I am not requesting that someone post a complete review of the performance of the new Crossbow, in that I believe that sort of review goes against NWKite forum policy, and only serves to initiate and fuel a “my kite brand can beat up your kite brand” pimping squabble. Let’s leave that BS to other kite-forums. I am limiting my request to that of the relative effectiveness of the “safety system”. It would be nice to have the Cabrinha representative demonstrate the recommended procedure to be used with the IDS system in performing a “deep water self-rescue” procedure, paying particular attention to the importance of keeping the lengths and tensions of the two lines equal."


Please post this message on any other local kite forums, where you feel that interested kiters might demo these kites and report back to us.

Thanks for the help in exploring this new development in kiteboarding technology.

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Re: Cabrinha Crossbow IDS

Postby paul m » Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:15 pm

Hey all, i have video and slide show and of the ids system with the 11 and 13 meter. I will also update with 16 meter in light wind and [i had to wait for help] will have someone film me in strong wind , over the head self rescue and then light wind self rescue on monday. I will put this all up around 7 pm. I have alot of hours on this system, so i will check in afte i post to answer what i can. i have made video as what worked for me.

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Re: Cabrinha Crossbow IDS

Postby Kosh » Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:35 pm

Can you compare the 2:1 on 08 Crossbow against 1:1 on 09 Crossbow? Especially how far you must push the bar to get the same amount of depower on the 09 as with 08?

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Re: Cabrinha Crossbow IDS

Postby Galeltic » Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:43 pm

kitezilla wrote:It won’t be long now, before we will be getting user reports on the functionality and safety of the new “four line with fifth line function” control systems such as that on the new Cabrinha and North kites.

I have put out a request on the 2 NW kite forums, that reports on the new control “safety” system be posted. Hopefully, someone will test the feasibility and safety of the “deep-water self-rescue” procedure needed to bring these kites down and get them in hand, during an emergency self-rescue.

Here are the threads to follow, for those interested in this unique and possibly “ground-breaking” new kite control system.

http://www.nwkite.com/forums/t-8653.html

http://pskite.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1 ... e6a0f89f35


So far, Cabrinha has not referred to the IDS as a “safety” system, and North has implied in their ad for the Evo, that the 5th line system is still the safest.

Here is a copy of my request, which I posted on the above forums:

“For those of you Puget Sound Kite participants and lurkers, who have an interest in all things kite-technical, here is a link to a thread, on NWKite forum (including a link to Kiteforum), where the new Cabrinha IDS kite control system is discussed.

http://www.nwkite.com/forums/t-8653.html

Here is a copy of my request, posted on that forum, which I would like to extend to viewers of this forum:

"Here is the short version of my request that someone demo the new IDS system and report back to us:

The IDS control system is being promoted as having “4-line bridle kite simplicity with 5th-line safety.” The system appears to be very similar to that of the 2007 F-one Delta-C kite, and appears to be the same as that of the new North Evo.

My request is that someone investigate this feature of the new Cabrinha IDS kite. I am not requesting that someone post a complete review of the performance of the new Crossbow, in that I believe that sort of review goes against NWKite forum policy, and only serves to initiate and fuel a “my kite brand can beat up your kite brand” pimping squabble. Let’s leave that BS to other kite-forums. I am limiting my request to that of the relative effectiveness of the “safety system”. It would be nice to have the Cabrinha representative demonstrate the recommended procedure to be used with the IDS system in performing a “deep water self-rescue” procedure, paying particular attention to the importance of keeping the lengths and tensions of the two lines equal."
i 'd like to say congrat to kitezilla who said that at first place before this new post so u are exactly nut ape on earth , lol by i called u last time ! :thumb:

Please post this message on any other local kite forums, where you feel that interested kiters might demo these kites and report back to us.

Thanks for the help in exploring this new development in kiteboarding technology.

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Re: Cabrinha Crossbow IDS

Postby ronnie » Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:18 pm

paul m wrote:Hey all, i have video and slide show and of the ids system with the 11 and 13 meter. I will also update with 16 meter in light wind and [i had to wait for help] will have someone film me in strong wind , over the head self rescue and then light wind self rescue on monday. I will put this all up around 7 pm. I have alot of hours on this system, so i will check in afte i post to answer what i can. i have made video as what worked for me.


Hi Paul,
Glad to see you offering to help. Cabrinha seem to keel over at providing useful information on using their kites.
I am likely to be kiting on my own a lot so I am interested in the advantages of the IDS for self-launching and landing, probably where I can wade out to get 30m of water downwind and mostly in wind under 20mph. Apart from the deep water packdown scenario, I would also like to know about recovering and flying the kite from the stage2 depowered position in deep water.
Hope you can help on this,
Thanks,
Ronnie

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Re: Cabrinha Crossbow IDS

Postby Steve Martin » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:21 am

Cabrinha has updated their website with IDS information http://www.cabrinhakites.com/

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Re: Cabrinha Crossbow IDS

Postby toyletbowl » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:59 am

the new we site is fantastic. nice job. colors of kites are shown now...and there's a great chart showing all bow kites since the original Crossbow and Switchblade 1's up to the new CB IDS and all bars and if they are compatible with each other. Nice.

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