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 Post subject: Re: Wainman Hawaii- Questions?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:36 pm 
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The blunt and tasty boards look really nice. (as does that Jimmy)

What is the thought behind the saw tooth tips?

What type of riding is the board intended for? Looks fat and fast. Does it have a lot of spray in chop or do the tips come in enough to keep this down a bit?

Thanks for the pics. Looks nice. :thumb:


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 Post subject: Re: Wainman Hawaii- Questions?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:21 pm 
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I can't wait to Smoke that Blunt :jump:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:07 pm 
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Board won't be available for a lil bit, and interest is already up.
www.Skybanditz.com has one of the first production Blunts available in Miami now for Demo anytime.

I'm sure the initial order will be gone as soon as it arrives.
The BLUNT can be pre-ordered here (more photos as well).
http://www.skybanditz.com/product_info. ... cts_id=123

Ken


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 Post subject: Re: Wainman Hawaii- Questions?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:19 pm 
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Another session in really punchy winds 20 - 30knots on lake michigan has me liking the 9m smoke a lot. I do not miss the torch 08 i am used to. Rode it stock setup with back lines on the furthest knot, got the stopper ball bar (static stopper) not missing adjustability.

Biggest jumps ever, you know where the kite is without looking. Just like a C no changes there, very high and mighty on the way up, gentle on the way down.

The key to the kite is to realize that it likes to be flown, you have to move it and back it off from the edge of the window, scooping in backwards especially when you are going down a wave. The kite needs to be flown so that wind goes through it. Felt really "full" smooth depower was on hand. Turns with power (not like a bow).

If you do not back the kite off and it is at the edge of the window and let there be full slack (i am not talking about a missed jump or "taking a break" with the kite at zenith), then it will start to move to the water ready for relaunch. Otherwise it will hover when you have it above your head. This thing does not just crash or fall out of the air by itself.

When the kite is on the side of the window and you leave slack in the lines by racing towards the kite it will sink down to the water. That can be bad when there are waves, but the key is to sheet in and steer the kite back into the window so that that does not happen. If you sheet in the kite will move back into the window again or you have to steer a touch backwards.

The stronger the wind, the less there is a need to steer the kite back by the way.

Finally, when on waves the kite turns really well when you push the bar rather than pull it, (i,e, pushing on the top hand). Backing it off is not hard because the kite rides so "connected" to rider input with no bow lag.

Had an awesome time, on my own which is special to me.

Managed to do the self land by pulling on the top front line brought the kite right down even in the high winds leading edge facing the wind. Self launch was no problem either, just flipped the kite over and it was in the air right away.

Pretty stoked right now. If you can, try it out if you see a rabbit.

for the right people, I think it's the way to go.

Jochi


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 Post subject: Re: Wainman Hawaii- Questions?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:43 pm 
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Nice very well written Rabbit review from the UK.

http://www.kiteverde.com/



Phil
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 Post subject: Re: Wainman Hawaii- Questions?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:51 pm 
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:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: Nice :bye: :bye: :jump:


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 Post subject: Re: Wainman Hawaii- Questions?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:56 am 
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Hey all,

Enjoying my Rabbit quiver a bunch! A quick question - does anyone feel like these kites do not have great upwind capability - it sux actually? (I understand that they do not sit as far forward in the window as most hybrid style kites).

Any comments/experiences would be much appreciated!

jCk


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 Post subject: Re: Wainman Hawaii- Questions?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:08 pm 
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i found they scream upwind. maybe change the bridle points to faster if u havent already. Upwind is about board techinque more than the kite. Also who said they dont jump that well? nearly went though a mates kite at 11o clock on a monster boost! great kite... not as good as my Hadlow pros :thumb: ...different style of riding though


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 Post subject: Re: Wainman Hawaii- Questions?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:36 pm 
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Yeah I find they scream upwind as well, even in low winds no problem. Had a great session on the smoke yesterday, jesus I still can't get over how well they boost for a delta style kite, what ever happened to all the stuff about high aspect kites being required to boost high and give good float.

One happy Rabbit. :lol:

phil


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 Post subject: Re: Wainman Hawaii- Questions?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:22 pm 
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I have set up my smoke on single-line, and i love it!!
Indeed, the upwind performance is a bit less, but the steering is really direct. I love it, especially on short, 17 meter, lines.
Thanks Lou and Franz for developing these nice breed of kites! Thanks Franz for explaining all the settings and tweaks on these kites last weekend here in Scheveningen! :thumb:


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