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 Post subject: Re: Severe Storm Lofting In Florida - Video
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:25 pm 
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The video just made CNN headline news


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 Post subject: Re: Severe Storm Lofting In Florida - Video
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:06 pm 
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They just had a clip of the accident on the Weather Channel during TS Fay coverage. They also have the video on their website.

An accident with a lot of similarities happened many years in the past in another Tropical System, in another squall from another feeder band resulting in another severe lofting and building impact. If we can't learn from the past and all the subsequent accidents and incidents, what will it take?

Ancient history, repeated yet again




btw, it is fairly EASY to avoid accidents like these. Such accidents are NOT inevidable,
we just need to use good procedures and judgment. Most kitesurfers do so all the time.
We need to remember that and work to expand the trend.


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 Post subject: Re: Severe Storm Lofting In Florida - Video
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:29 pm 
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[quote="Kosh
I've never experienced that my bowkites, when released to a frontline, have any pull. No experience with a back line...[/quote]

I have only watched a bow on the backline and it does not have much power but it spins very fast, which may lead to a problem.

I flagged a 14m Contra in about 20 to 25mph and I had to get to the kite by passing the line across the bar hook so I could use both hands to get to the kite. I could not have gotten to it hand over hand. It was not near dragging me at that wind speed, but based on that pull, a very strong gust might have been enough to drag me.


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 Post subject: Re: Severe Storm Lofting In Florida - Video
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:53 pm 
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Delta Wake, i would watch thowing stones, we are no diffferent than cali or anywhere else in the world. As i recall you guys are fighting off bans, i dont agree with the riders choice, but we all take our own risks......I remember when a guy in hatteras was storm riding in 60 mph and you thought it was cool, i guess cause he didnt crash. Anyway, this is a problem everywhere......it sucks.....not sure what you can do to change it, thats the hard question, can say all you want, but how do you stop it...?


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 Post subject: Re: Severe Storm Lofting In Florida - Video
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:19 pm 
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But how is the guy?? Any updates?


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 Post subject: Re: Severe Storm Lofting In Florida - Video
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:43 pm 
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Real bummer to see such images.
Hope the guy makes it through.
I don't understand why these guys are out in those conditions, they were looking for big trouble, and found it.
As a non kiter I would definitely be against this activity, or at the very least work to enforce laws to ban it on my beach.
All in all a very bad thing for our sport.
Nico
PS. I second Koshs motion about Ex.player.


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 Post subject: Re: Severe Storm Lofting In Florida - Video
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:36 pm 
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RickI wrote:

btw, it is fairly EASY to avoid accidents like these. Such accidents are NOT inevidable,
we just need to use good procedures and judgment.



Agreed. Again, it's called not going out in SQUALLS and TROPICAL STORMS (especially in a highly populated urban area).

This is not the kind of national news coverage the sport needs.


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 Post subject: Re: Severe Storm Lofting In Florida - Video
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:51 pm 
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any discussion of kite type in this context is misplaced. conditions were such that NO RIDER -- regardless of experience, kite type, kite size, equip, etc, -- should have been out there.

to the extent that the rider shown WAS out there, that represents a failure. he should not have put ANY kite up, even a trainer. whose fault is this? his own? his instructors? his mates?

pick anybody you want. the point is, for whatever reason, he did not have the proper respect for the conditions. that, combined with his own possible overestimation of his (mad) skills, is a deadly mix.


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 Post subject: Re: Severe Storm Lofting In Florida - Video
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The incident is now on the front page of the DRUDGE Report now (for those of you not in the US, Drudge is a popular website that compiles and provides links to major news stories, well, and gossip/scandal as well).


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 Post subject: Re: Severe Storm Lofting In Florida - Video
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I was just filled in detail on what happened in this accident. I hope to have a report up summarizing events, weather and related information later on today. As has been said already, such accidents are not inevitable but in fact can be fairly easily avoided.

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