Ned Divine wrote:You can very easily swim upwind to your board by placing the kite at 12 and using the double-backstroke swim. All of my kites (foil, SLE, Cs) behave perfectly well for this in any strength of wind.
You then go on to say.....
Ned Divine wrote:
Ah, Windmaker, who said anything about begginers?
A begginer couldn't use this technique because he/she would not let go of the bar under any circumstances!
But didn't you say all your kites behave perfectly for this in any wind.
So if that were really the case why should it be a problem for a beginner????
Also the claim of any strength of wind is a bit far fetched..... I'd like to see you swim against the type of chop you get on 30mph plus winds.
If you can get to the board quicker with back stroke you either belong on the Olympic swim team or need to learn how to body drag a bit better with a kite.
Also the idea of swimming back stroke without being able to see your board or some clump of kelp lurking 2 inches under the water does not seem like a good idea to me.
Your first point I cannot understand. A begginer is not defined by the type of kite he/she uses so there is no controversy. A begginer is someone with limited experience who should not try funny stuff like this and stick to the upwind body drag with any type of kite. You seem a bit confused here.
(edit: reading again I understood what you mean - but still you are wrong, a kite behaves better when attached to an experienced rider because the corrections and trimming are far superior than for a begginer / also, if a begginer makes a mess out of the technique (the kite collapses or whatever) he is in trouble far more than an experienced rider. So, it's not the same at all.)
Your second point is absolutely correct. I was mislead by the fact that I haven't kited in very strong winds for a long time and kind of forgot they existed
(winter is coming though!
). I never used this for very strong winds.
Your third point I think is totally wrong. Try for yourself, it is quicker than body-dragging and I have to make clear that I am way better in body-dragging than swimming, thank you very much. No Olympic medals whatsoever.
You are very welcome for a body-drag race whenever!
Your fourth point is correct but doesn't apply in all situations. If the sea is flat or choppy and there are no real waves then there is no risk. Underwater obstacles can indeed be a problem but this applies to any method, in fact if you body drag you spend more time swimming and the benefit of looking ahead (still not underneath you though) is diluted by the increased amount of time in the water.