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Postby Seabizzle » Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:49 pm
Hi I am pretty keen to get some north neos or possibly monos and from what I have read online it seems like the north kites really need the high Y to fly at their best.
I am currently riding with a modified naish bar with my kites. I have modified the bar to have a very small chicken loop and long bar throw, I use this with a sliding spreader and I love it.
If I were to buy a north bar I would most likely be modifying it quite a bit anyway and I don't really want to shell out for it if I can modify an older bar to be exactly how I want and possibly save some cash doing it ( actually on the lookout for a cheap airush bar because it has a very compact QR with below bar swivel)
What I was wondering would be how to make the high Y split?? surely there must be some type of clip or piece that I could order online that would do the job perfectly? I could possibly just get the North front lines set and use it on the bar?
I would be very happy to see or hear of some others out there who have custom high Y bars and what or how they did it
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Postby edt » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:33 pm
It shouldn't hurt the line's strength to put a bolt through the middle of the line. That will turn your V system into a Y while retaining single line flagging. as far as I know, nobody makes a part that does this sort of conversion. A high Y is normally accompanied with a 5th line (naish torch north rebel, vegas). As far as I know people usually ride the 4 line north kites with the low V instead of the high Y if they don't have the right bar. The exception are those 5 line kites, those really do want the high Y and a tensioned 5th line.
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Postby omg » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:48 pm
I believe the North Click bar has a system which allows you to put Y in different place on the front lines, sounds like exactly what you are after?
Let us know if you are able to get the part somewhere or otherwise use a similar system like that.
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Postby alfredo68 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:27 pm
edt wrote: ↑Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:33 pm
It shouldn't hurt the line's strength to put a bolt through the middle of the line. That will turn your V system into a Y while retaining single line flagging. as far as I know, nobody makes a part that does this sort of conversion. A high Y is normally accompanied with a 5th line (naish torch north rebel, vegas). As far as I know people usually ride the 4 line north kites with the low V instead of the high Y if they don't have the right bar. The exception are those 5 line kites, those really do want the high Y and a tensioned 5th line.
How you make that bolt stay on a specific height? to make the low V become an Y. Instead of that bolt can t be a small ring??
I just bought a new religion , high Y (didn t get it yet) and I am planning to use it with my airush progression bar or blade unibar, both low V (or low Y, whatever)
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Postby alexeyga » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:48 pm
Check the video of the new F-One bar, they have a removable "Y" configuration - you could probably do the same. Split one of the front lines right where you want your Y to be, add a ring in the connection and pass the other front line through it.
That being said - why bother at all? Kites designed to fly on Y-bars work perfectly fine with V-bars, it's the other way around that you might actually notice any difference in kite's behaviour and yet alone - to have any real issues.
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Postby edt » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:55 pm
put bolt trhu line add nut to keep in place
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Postby grigorib » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:57 pm
Seabizzle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:49 pm
Hi I am pretty keen to get some north neos or possibly monos and from what I have read online it seems like the north kites really need the high Y to fly at their best.
I have an extra Slingshot Z 4-line high-Y bar I'm not using except for better angle of line mounted camera.
It's all in perfect condition. Let me know if you'd be interested in it.
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Postby alfredo68 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:59 pm
alexeyga wrote: ↑Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:48 pm
Check the video of the new F-One bar, they have a removable "Y" configuration - you could probably do the same. Split one of the front lines right where you want your Y to be, add a ring the the connection and pass the other front line through it.
That being said - why bother at all? Kites designed to fly on Y-bars work perfectly fine with V-bars, it's the other way around that you might actually notice any difference in kite's behaviour and yet alone - to have any really issues.
Good last point. I will try my new religion with low V bar. If it works fine i m good. I thought they would loose performance by changing them the original high Y to low V bar
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Postby Lokihel » Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:32 pm
Putting a bolt through a thin kite line REALLY does not sound like a good idea.
You will be causing all sorts of problems with the line spread open like that.
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Postby evan » Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:34 pm
What about changing from 25m to 18m lines or putting some 5m extensions on for a bit extra low end. That has more impact on the angle of the frontlines than a 3m higher split or do all kites fly like shit on anything else than the stock setup?
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