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Stupid question - what does overpowered feel like?

Postby Beardytello » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:45 pm

So bear with me, I'm aware this sounds ridiculously obvious.

I went out the other day when it was quite fresh, it's gusty where I live so I have to deal with 10kt gusts if I want a session, so we were talking 18kt gusting to about 28kt ish.

I'm heavy so I went out on my Evo 14m to begin with, however I felt nervous as it was really powerful in the gusts, I never felt totally out of control and I didn't feel at risk of lofting...but I did come in and switch it out for my 9m (I only have these for now) I was able to get out and ride on my 9...making me think my 14 was overpowered maybe?

I'm guessing you're overpowered when you're struggling to hold the kite down fully sheeted out? I don't think I was quite there but it didn't make me feel happy at the time!

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Re: Stupid question - what does overpowered feel like?

Postby or6 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:04 pm

Technically, you're overpowered when you have to sheet out, or repower by the depowerthingy. When you are struggling with the kite fully sheeted out, you are waaay overpowered.

Which can be fine, for short periods, when you are still in control of your board. When you can't jump any more, because you're getting pulled off your edge....time to switch a size or two down.

On a surfboard, you get overpowered rather quickly....you always fly the smallest possible kite.

On a TT, switching from a 14 to a 9 would mean you were well overpowered....though when still in control on the 14....hold on. The nine probably wasn't too powered up, I suppose?

So...imo overpowered means losing control of edge, speed etc.

Be safe, have fun, and when in doubt, rig small.

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Re: Stupid question - what does overpowered feel like?

Postby PullStrings » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:07 pm

Feels like getting your prostate checked

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Re: Stupid question - what does overpowered feel like?

Postby Beardytello » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:14 pm

PullStrings wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:07 pm
Feels like getting your prostate checked
:lol:

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Re: Stupid question - what does overpowered feel like?

Postby Beardytello » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:16 pm

or6 wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:04 pm

On a TT, switching from a 14 to a 9 would mean you were well overpowered....though when still in control on the 14....hold on. The nine probably wasn't too powered up, I suppose?
The 9 was lovely in the gusts, but piss poor in the lulls! In my mind at the time I thought a 12 would have been just about spot on...but I have an internet spending addiction so I would think that :lol:

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Re: Stupid question - what does overpowered feel like?

Postby Toby » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:17 pm

There is powered and overpowered.

What you described is powered, since you are still in control of the kite.

Overpowered is when you cannot hold the edge anymore and the kite controls you.

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Re: Stupid question - what does overpowered feel like?

Postby iriejohn » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:19 pm

Beardytello wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:16 pm
or6 wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:04 pm

On a TT, switching from a 14 to a 9 would mean you were well overpowered....though when still in control on the 14....hold on. The nine probably wasn't too powered up, I suppose?
The 9 was lovely in the gusts, but piss poor in the lulls! In my mind at the time I thought a 12 would have been just about spot on...but I have an internet spending addiction so I would think that :lol:
An 11m would fit just nicely between your 9m and your 14m. Time to get your credit card out - YKIMS :thumb:

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Re: Stupid question - what does overpowered feel like?

Postby Beardytello » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:20 pm

Toby wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:17 pm
There is powered and overpowered.

What you described is powered, since you are still in control of the kite.

Overpowered is when you cannot hold the edge anymore and the kite controls you.
I think that's what I'm trying to differentiate, I've been underpowered alot (again, due to being heavy and a 14 being my biggest kite, sub 15kts is weak) so feeling actually powered is pretty new to me.

It didn't help I had to walk out over a load of slippy sea weed to get out a bit and when the kite was pulling I felt like bambi!

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Re: Stupid question - what does overpowered feel like?

Postby Beardytello » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:22 pm

iriejohn wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:19 pm
Beardytello wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:16 pm
or6 wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:04 pm

On a TT, switching from a 14 to a 9 would mean you were well overpowered....though when still in control on the 14....hold on. The nine probably wasn't too powered up, I suppose?
The 9 was lovely in the gusts, but piss poor in the lulls! In my mind at the time I thought a 12 would have been just about spot on...but I have an internet spending addiction so I would think that :lol:
An 11m would fit just nicely between your 9m and your 14m. Time to get your credit card out - YKIMS :thumb:
I know!

That would be the point of divorce I think after a recent spate of purchases! ...I know kiting is eventually going to get me divorced but I was hoping to eek a few more years out before the inevitable :D

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Re: Stupid question - what does overpowered feel like?

Postby Toby » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:46 pm

On water you can hold more power than on land due to the edge of the board and the resistance of the water.

Being nicely powered on water can be dangerous on land, specially on slippery ground. This can be fatal ! If you ride powered make sure your launch and landing are safe. Pick an according spot if winds are stronger to be safe.


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