High end materials...

[sq225917]

Your 2008 Waroo was made with Teijin Ripstop and Dimension Polyant Dacron- they were the two most highly regarded materials in the industry at the time with the best specifications and durability.

In fact the canopy cloth is exactly the same Teijin canopy cloth as was used by Flexifoil during the same period. So any differences in durability is down to when and how the kites have been flown, and how they have been looked after on the beach.


I still have a 2008 Waroo myself, it was one of my demo kites, so has been used and abused, It has certainly had more than 500 hours flying time on it. It doesn't look like it did the day it was new but it's certainly perfectly serviceable and probably works out at about $1.10 per hour flown. That's pretty good VFM.

[Kamikuza]

Have you seen the exchange rate for Yen to Dollar? I bought all of South Carolina yesterday and I only had to stop drinking for a week.

[grisen]

Hi there,

From my point of view, it is not which company who uses the best or most expensiv materiales, but more how to they use the different materiales. Unfornatly these brand names of different materiales are used in markting a new product. But from my point of view it is not which single components that are used, but rather how the over all performance of the product, which is interesting. I build kiteboards myself. I can build one made from carbon fibers which is pretty expensive and a very nice materiale. But if I use the carbon fibres wrong, I end up with a shitty board. I can also use the much cheaper glass fiber and still make a good board. (But I know what I'm doing with carbon fibres, so my boards are made with carbon fibres ) In my civil work I'm working with materiale development, and I have seen several examples how marketing guys use a single materiale name/property to sell the whole product. Then suddenly cost of this specific material increases like hell (which happens to PMMA plastic at this moment) Then you have to find another sutible materiale, but all you marketing is based on using a specific material name, shit happens. So to all you marketing guys please focus on the product properies rather than seeling the single materiales used in the product. By the way most of us doesn't even know the difference between teijin D2, Teijin extreme power ltd. rip stop etc. we have just heard the names from some marketing guys )

kind regards from Denmark
Lars

[ejkt]

simon, we heard teijin supplies carbon fibers to boein, no strange their materials are expensive.
tell us something about your new material supplier, where are they from?

[ejkt]

simon, just like to know best is not more using teijin and german materials ?
are best and cabrinha really sourcing material from china? the printed materials in
your 2011 models are very same as we see on cab's.

[esg]

my 2008 Best Waroo was a piece of crap. It tore apart at practically every seam, at different times, on the leading edge for no reason...not even 9 months old. So maybe it's the cheap thread holding that top-notch material together that is junk.

[H53Driver]

Don't know much about ripstop or kite construction but my 2006 Ozone Instincts are still going strong. The fabric is holding up very well and the construction is proving to be top notch. Not sure about their recent kites but whatever they were doing at that factory in Vietnam back in 2006 was good.

I want to buy new kites but I have a hard time justifying when these Ozones look like they have several more years left in them.

My only complaint....valve adhesive.

[Billy B.]

My only complaint....valve adhesive.

Common Isuu,e air time replacments do the trick.

[Billy B.]

Hi there,

By the way most of us doesn't even know the difference between teijin D2, Teijin extreme power ltd. rip stop etc.

kind regards from Denmark
Lars

Here is some onfo on D2 My new kites have it and it feels and looks different, I don't think it is just marketing. There are some vids of it being streached and torn at the same location.

http://www.northkites.com/public/conten ... x_eng.html

[Jdizzle]

Don't know much about ripstop or kite construction but my 2006 Ozone Instincts are still going strong. The fabric is holding up very well and the construction is proving to be top notch. Not sure about their recent kites but whatever they were doing at that factory in Vietnam back in 2006 was good.

I want to buy new kites but I have a hard time justifying when these Ozones look like they have several more years left in them.

My only complaint....valve adhesive.

Glad to hear about your ozone's holding up. I hope my Catalysts hold up that long, I've had them for 8 months, used them shit loads...and they still look almost brand new. Quality