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Re: the best beginner kite

Postby JamesVegas » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:23 am

Why is one pump a must?

I started off on the Best Waroo and whilst it was good after 6 months I was bored of it. If you are serious about the sport go for something that is going to be good for a few years and not a "beginners kite".

2011 North Evo. 5th line safety, super stable, low aspect, instant (no rider input) relauch, the best materials used (Technoforce D2) and North's quality back up and worldwide dealer network. It's a kite that you can use instantly but not get bored of, it's a lovely freeride kite, it's got impressive hangtime, it's good in the waves, loops nicely and it's solid and stable unhooked. It is almost impossible to backstall. I wouldn't consider anything else personally for someone starting out.

If you're not sure about the sport find your local reputable dealer and get some decent second hand gear (anything after 2009) and save a few bucks. Otherwise buy the Evo.

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Re: the best beginner kite

Postby dennisdeslager » Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:31 pm

Hi, i'm back again

Thanks for all the comments guys, i really appreciate it.
For the local wind conditions : i live in Belgium, but i travel a lot. ( been to Cabarete, 3 times to Fuerteventura, Bahia de rosas...)
So in Belgium the conditions are normally 12 - 25kts:( prety gusty too) most days something of 20-22 knots, except for this summer ( prety gusty too) , waves of 0.5 m.
I will take some more lessons until i can ride 400m and turn without a problem and have the kite completely under control.
I also would like a good freestyle kite.
And what do you guys think of the F-one Bandit IV?

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Re: the best beginner kite

Postby JamesVegas » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:05 pm

Again. Evo.

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Re: the best beginner kite

Postby ChristinaD » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:19 pm

Would you buy new or used for a beginner kite? Most people I have seen beat their kite up quite badly during the learning process.

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Re: the best beginner kite

Postby dennisdeslager » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:59 pm

i am going to buy a new kite
@ JamesVegas, i will definitely try the Evo

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Re: the best beginner kite

Postby Windrider » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:20 pm

I'd say to be aware that a "beginner kite" label doesn't mean that you will outgrow its performance once you become more skilled. A "beginner kite" has many characteristics that you will want even after you progress. Ease of relaunch is a very good thing. Durability is a very good thing. Predictability is a very good thing. I have kites classified as beginner and kites classified as expert. I tend to use the "beginner kites" more because they fit the widest range of normal conditions here. They perform the best for the most common wind conditions found at my locale, and I find that I can stay out the longest using the "beginner kites".

"Beginner kite" does not mean a kite with training wheels!

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Re: the best beginner kite

Postby sojopo » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:13 am

One pump is great because one of the things, like wind speed, that you get better at judging with experience, is how well your kite is pumped up. If it takes me extra time to consider whether one bladder is blown up properly, then it takes me 5 times as long and 5 times the angst to do 5 bladders. Once you learn it, I agree, one pump is not that big a deal. Probably, once you're experienced, it may be even worse, because repairing the kite bladders would take longer.

Some would argue the time savings to get a one pumper in the air, versus attaching the pump, sealing valves 5 times. Me, I'm patient enough for either.

My $0.02

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Re: the best beginner kite

Postby Dimitri M » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:22 am

Make sure you get some lessons first before buying a kite and definitely as a beginner I think the best thing to do is to buy a used kite because you are going to abuse that kite so much.
Then once you get much better in your kiting skills try to test some kites to find which one will be good for you. The shops are here to help you choose your equipment. So go through them for safety reasons.

Now if you have money and you don't care about the money, then buy a new kite. But always try to go through a shop so you can demo the kites and also have the schools help you in deciding what kite is best for you.
Good luck.

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Re: the best beginner kite

Postby C Johnson » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:55 am

+1 for Best Kahoona.

its the only Delta I've really tried. Actually owned V1 and V2 kahoonas for awhile.

my favorite things about the kite are:

Short simple bridles
Easiest relaunch i've ever experienced
Almost impossible to get it to overfly
Almost impossible to backstall

my least favorite things:

upwind performance is average
bar pressure was a little high
not the highest jumper
do not like the best flying fish logo.

lots of other delta's on the market. some of them might be better for beginners. The North EVO and Epic Renegade look like good contenders.

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Re: the best beginner kite

Postby C Johnson » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:00 am

not to highjack but something I've often wondered.

what's the most beginner friendly control bar?

I think this is often over looked when making a kite purchase. I still have yet to own a below the bar depower system that actually works right. swivels are another problem area, some work some dont. safety releases and reliability of flagging systems is also another big area.

the Cabrinha IDS bar looks real nice and appears to function well but things I've wondered are; how well does the flagging line hold up? is there a way to configure it to flag on 1 line for a self land/self rescue scenario? how difficult is it to get replacement parts? eg is this a bar that is easy to maintain or is it disposable?

finally a side note: I think a big contribution to keeping our sport green would be for kite companies to offer more modestly priced maintenance items for servicing kites/bars/lines. these things always seem to be difficult to find and insanely overpriced if you do find them. just some friendly thinking out loud :)


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