Slingshot RPM 2011

pndLA · **Posted:** Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:40 am

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What line lenghts do you fly the 8m 2010 rpm on? I'm a bit confused as the small sheet you get with the kite says 17inch bar 20m lines however I've seen shop adverts for the 2010 8m and they state 17 inch bar 23m lines??

i was out on a 2011 8m RPM yesterday - it came with a 17" bar - on the bar it says 17" 23m

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angelo · **Joined:** Sun Dec 29, 2002 1:00 am **Posts:** 249

james wrote:

as the Brand rep for slingy in the UK i would love to know who told you that there was no 2011 RPM?..

the 2011 RPM launches spring of 2011 and stays through to the spring of 2012 so it has a full year so hope that others launching out of season dont sway you thoughts too much. the kites arrived in the docks on the 18th and will be with dealers within a matter of days.

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angelo · **Joined:** Sun Dec 29, 2002 1:00 am **Posts:** 249

pndLA wrote:

Quote:

What line lenghts do you fly the 8m 2010 rpm on? I'm a bit confused as the small sheet you get with the kite says 17inch bar 20m lines however I've seen shop adverts for the 2010 8m and they state 17 inch bar 23m lines??

i was out on a 2011 8m RPM yesterday - it came with a 17" bar - on the bar it says 17" 23m

yer thats correct. :thumb:

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Anglian · **Joined:** Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:35 am **Posts:** 76

That's odd because my 2010 8m came with a 17 inch bar with 20m lines?? What's that bar for then?

Fatfish98 · **Posted:** Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:07 pm

For 2011 they upped the line length from 20m to 23m

The 2010 8 had 17" bar and 20m lines
while the 10m had 20" bar and 23m lines

For 2011 they've gone to 23m lines with 25m on the larger RPM's

angelo · **Joined:** Sun Dec 29, 2002 1:00 am **Posts:** 249

Anglian wrote:

That's odd because my 2010 8m came with a 17 inch bar with 20m lines?? What's that bar for then?

yer thats right.. 20m lines wit 2010 and 23m lines with 2011
ANgelo

p__han1 · **Joined:** Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:03 pm **Posts:** 108

I really dislike line lengths longer than 23m. I have the new 9M RPM with a 17inch bar and 23M lines which I love! This is a really sick kite and it is phenomenal in this kite size. I'm looking however to get a 12 2011 rpm in the next month or so but really don't want 25M lines!! Will Slingshot provide a 20inch bar with 23m lines if requested?

eree · **Posted:** Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:33 pm

BWD wrote:

split strut means the struts are not "under" the canopy fabric, but "in" it, connected to the canopy by 2 seams instead of one.

Split strut was most likely mainly left off some new models to save on sewing cost and development issues/time as SS branched out into more different types of kites.

One seam is cheaper than 2 and the split strut assembly needs more strips of cloth and more seams, plus a need for more different types of seams in the canopy, compared to conventional build.

Split Strut Pros:
-changes the feel of a kite
-can provide some absorption of gust as canopy tension deforms the strut (and v.v. as the tension decreases).
-also helps with durability
-geometry helps keep frame rigid and canopy tighter, so good for performance...(?)

There were other reasons for leaving it off too:
-saves a little weight
-cost and complexity
-probably also simpler/cheaper for the the rider to repair if it breaks

But they brought it back and that is probably good, since it helps support the kites' unique qualities and reputation for strength and durability.
Nothing wrong with the prior rpms and recent fuels without split strut though, they are all good kites imho.
a simplified visual explanation:

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sorry for being late but i have some reservations.

first of all not 1 seam instead of 2, but 3 seams instead of 5. so, if (lets say) strut is 1,5m long you have to stitch 3m longer, not just 1,5m. just because strut is now made from 3 segments, not 2 as before, plus 2 seams to stitch canopy to each side of the strut.

then, there are practically no pros for splitstrut at all:

-bet if there were "blind" test of the split and regular struts there would be no noticeable difference in the "feel" of the kite
-there will be certainly some absorption by the strut in split-strut version but i'm sure it will be marginal compared with overall elasticity of the canopy material and flexibility of the inflatable LE bladder and the struts
-more seams (eg cloth perforation points) leads to less durability imo
-and as you stated earlier, "some absorption" (though almost negligible imo) can not contribute to the rigidity of the frame and the tightness of the canopy

plus there are now two 1 and 1/2'' wide dacron stripes per each strut instead of one on the traditional strut for connecting the teijin to the strut, so there is more added weight.

don't you think so?

so, for me it is just unnecessary waste of chinese workers time and money in form of materials and marketing costs.
the simplest solution is the better. no need to revive gone long time ago ineffective solutions, even if they were original.

winds

eree · **Posted:** Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:51 pm

and guys!

listening certain brand reps discussing between themselves on the greatness of the product and color scheme of the canopy is like walking on somebody masturbating in the public park! it is just disgusting!

after all there are teenagers reading this forum too.

if i wanted it i would read the one of the epic's threads, honestly...

boardrider1979 · **Joined:** Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:40 am **Posts:** 22

Of the three 2011 compstick bars that I have, one is 20x23 meter lines and another is 23x27 meter lines. Previous posts indicated that the maximum line lengths for the 2011 bar is 25m. Just sharing in light of the recent posts ...

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