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slingslut
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Post subject: Re: Slingshot RPM 2011 Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:23 am |
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Quote: One thing that is confusing to me is the RPM comes with pigtails for the wake and freestyle setting. I have the long pigs on the wake setting and the short on the freestyle setting...I am not sure if this is correct or not. If this is how your kite is setup it is definately wrong. The short pigtail should be on the wakestyle attachment and the long pigtails should be on the freestyle attachment. I had a 12m turn up with them the wrong way around. I changed them before flying, however, if you didn't then the kite will be way over sheeted when in wakestyle and way under sheeted in freestyle.
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Post subject: Re: Slingshot RPM 2011 Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 1:46 pm |
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2010 Smoke Vs RPM 10m (2011):
I compared the two kites today back to back, in 18-23 knots, and yes as previous posters have pointed out - deltas definitely have more power. I would say they have similar ranges, without being too specific - after all, this is why most people have more than 1 kite, since that nice powered up sweet spot isn't fairly captured by the manufactures wind range.
The Wainman boost considerably higher than the Slingshot, but with very little loft, so strap yourself in for the descent part of your jump 'cos you will be landing pretty hot; unlike the RPM.
The Wainman has excellent turning agility, and is lots of fun when carving through waves, chop and just general manoeuvring. Its slightly heavier bar pressure gives you a very direct feel to where the kite is, and what it's doing. This is not to say the RPM is slow or unresponsive, because its not.
If you own a Wainman, I certainly wouldn't sell it just to purchase the latest and greatest slingshot; which is precisely what I did.
So whats the trade off? Well the lighter bar pressure can be a little more forgiving after a few hours on the water. Loftier jumps, albeit not as high as the Wainman will definitely allow you to progress your hands off the bar and onto various board grabs.
Popping and unhooking (to be fair, neither of which I did whilst owning the Wainman), the RPM does this very nicely without tearing your arms out of your sockets or back stalling. It also has a superior safety system, with higher quality front lines (Wainman makes this up with bridle simplicity). Slingshot's below the bar trimming doesn't seem as seamless as Wainmans above the bar clam-cleet, which you can do with your eyes closed and not worry about the teeth chewing your fingers off.
So, my advice would be get a RPM if you want to progress towards un-hooking/wake, otherwise keep your Wainman, especially if your happy playing in the waves and like that very direct feel and nice big jumps - It is the best kite in the Rabbit line. Alternatively wait and see what Wainman do for their 2012 line-up...
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Kromium
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Post subject: Re: Slingshot RPM 2011 Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 4:36 am |
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Nice kite.A pleasure to fly, quick, smooth power, fun. Has the right amount of depower, but more on/off then linear. Boosts big, but more C-like.
IT IS not a bow kite and don't expect the range/upwind ability that you would get from one.
Can't have your cake and eat it too.
Don't get an rpm as your big kite. Better off with a big bow/delta and a small RPM.
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rjajr
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Post subject: Re: Slingshot RPM 2011 Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 7:32 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:00 pm Posts: 5 Location: Northeast Wisconsin
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Just to reprise my previous post about backstalling issues. It seems it was all in the pigtail switch, I switched them around and it made all the difference in the world. This kite is amazingly fun now and no more backstalling at all. I went to equal rigging and when fully depowered there was just a slight flutter in the canopy, so since then I have been riding it on the knot closest to the kite on the back lines and no flutter at all. A kite that is an absolute pleasure to ride, responsive, quick with power, I love this kite! Thank you all for clarifying the pigtail issue for me it really helped.
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bri
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Post subject: Re: Slingshot RPM 2011 Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 7:00 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:22 pm Posts: 229 Location: south london
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have the 9 and 12. I've found the kite to be fine. Is certainly better when powered up, goes upwind fine.
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dyyylan
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Post subject: Re: Slingshot RPM 2011 Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 8:45 pm |
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bri wrote: have the 9 and 12. I've found the kite to be fine. Is certainly better when powered up, goes upwind fine. What does it take to get going on a 12m? I'm up on my 13 in 12kts but it's a delta...
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bri
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Post subject: Re: Slingshot RPM 2011 Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 12:38 pm |
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I'm happy on a 12m in about 15 knots of flattish, I'm around 95kg and 6ft. Anything less than 15 knots then I'd need a 14.
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Kamikuza
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Post subject: Re: Slingshot RPM 2011 Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 12:40 pm |
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See this is how you do a "I'm stoked on my kite" ... one thread, 22 pages  not one thread every 22 minutes Those graphics aren't as bad as they used to be ... hmm ...
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Massimo
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Post subject: Re: Slingshot RPM 2011 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:05 pm |
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according your experience, for busting higher in light and medium wind with the RPM 14m is it better the freestyle or wakestyle setting? and is the 14m reacting faster on steering input with wake or freestyle setting? Thanks
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Post subject: Re: Slingshot RPM 2011 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:34 pm |
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Massimo wrote: according your experience, for busting higher in light and medium wind with the RPM 14m is it better the freestyle or wakestyle setting? and is the 14m reacting faster on steering input with wake or freestyle setting? Thanks I have been Flying the Slingshot Rpm's Since the first GEN (2009) and the changes have been small but perfect not to much but just enough to keep the kite ahead of the competition as for the 14m Get it on the freestyle setting it will make the kite a little faster to turn and thats always a good thing in big kites. I don't have a 14m but i have tested it and it really does have a lot of low end power. if you need or want any more info about the new 2011 Slingshot RPM give me a call Angelo www.s2as.com
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