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Strutlessssss (Strutless kite)

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:59 pm
by Gigi;)
... :?:

Re: Strutlessssss

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:33 pm
by Toby
looks like it will be an easy relaunch!

Re: Strutlessssss

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:20 pm
by herculon
tell us more !
self built ? whats the goal? (lightweight ?)

Re: Strutlessssss

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:57 pm
by Drachenschmied
that actually looks pretty interesting....
How does it fly??
For what reasons? Just trying out?
Maurice

Re: Strutlessssss

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:12 am
by alexrider
Gigi;) wrote:... :?:
Strutlesssss!
Very good. Someone at least goes in the right direction.
Now get rid of the inflatable leading edge (bladders are nuisance), add a second skin underneath, not forgetting to bridle the whole whole thing and you'll get a proper kite!
:jump:
Alex

Re: Strutlessssss

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:20 am
by alexrider
Toby wrote:looks like it will be an easy relaunch!
Interesting observation.
I'd try to find a way (extra line?) to be able to turn in around so as to be able to reverse launch. But looks indeed tricky nevertheless.
But you've probably noticed: it's not on the water ;-)

Re: Strutlessssss

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:14 am
by wondamic
Strutless is very interesting. I've flown my Wainman's this way and they fly fine. The kite flutters when you do turns of course but other than that, you can totally kite it. I'm assuming it was able to do this due to the low aspect ratio of the kite?

Regarding relaunch, I didn't attempt it cause I had a feeling that it wouldn't do it in the water.

GiGi: What's your experience with the relaunching on that thing?

Re: Strutlessssss

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:30 am
by herculon
if you look at the naiboo morphine,

viewtopic.php?t=2364299&p=650403

you can see that with a classic arc shape / c-shape, you do not seem to need struts in the middle...

gigi, now please make a really light weight tube kite ! goal: 180 g per projected squaremeter ! that would be better than most bridled kites :-)

the f-one source is around 230 g / proj. sqm - thats currently the lightest tubekite. but sadly they made it a 2liner with zero depower :angryfire:

Re: Strutlessssss

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:37 am
by braveman
does this thing fly?
it has to be bridled like hell, no?

Re: Strutlessssss

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:54 am
by TheJoe
Wondamic I had one of the small struts go out on my Boss one day. Like you said it flew fine but dropped the kite to a lull and could not get it to relaunch when the wind picked back up. Finishhed the day off with a swim back to shore.