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 Post subject: Re: New Revolutionary Quick Release?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:25 pm 
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http://vimeo.com/28148116 :roll:



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 Post subject: Re: New Revolutionary Quick Release?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:44 am 
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Guys we forgetting one thing here. Manufacturers have put themselves in a situation now where if they don't come up with a something new and "revolutionary" every year they lose market share because every other manufacturer is doing the same. I mean look at the new Cabrinha bar talk about over engineered!!! would love to see that thing perform in sand test.

I'm in the keep it simple camp fly F-One Bandits 4's and safety could not be simpler and it works. All the bells and whistle crap others keep coming up with is just a ploy to try and differentiate themselves from everyone else. Sad thing is they using "SAFETY" for me one of the all encompassing features you should be judging a kite by, as some kind of tool to lure prospective new buyers. Even if the system has been proven not to be so effective.

Many people new to the sport believe it or not do not know about Kitefourm and are left to make decisions by themselves or have the wool pulled over there eyes and pimped on to a certain brand. Like Toby mentioned a time has come for all manufacturers to band together and adopt ONE universal standard safety system proven to work in any situation. This will totally eliminate any doubt in customers minds with regards to safety measures and unscrupulous dealers. Kite performance/price should be the only thing newcomers to the sport should have to be worrying about!!!

In saying that unfortunately we in our sport we have a few overriding factors that dominate no matter how good safety systems are. Human judgment/error and mother nature. Non of these variables the manufacturer have control over unfortunately.


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 Post subject: Re: New Revolutionary Quick Release?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:31 pm 
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Biggest gear failure I had was an F-One chicken loop - the plastic/nylon/whatever body snapped off ... I'd settle for solid over simple!


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 Post subject: Re: New Revolutionary Quick Release?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:21 pm 
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Kamikuza wrote:
Biggest gear failure I had was an F-One chicken loop - the plastic/nylon/whatever body snapped off ... I'd settle for solid over simple!


Curious which one?


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 Post subject: Re: New Revolutionary Quick Release?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:55 pm 
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After watching this video I thought the twist QR was rubbish??.

He fills it with sand and proves it jams??

I am sure the "German" (seen mentioned earlier) build quality etc is of a decent enough standard and can be compared to all the rest etc.

I am not saying its a bad idea or that this and other methods should not be pursued.

It looks snazzy etc but I am sure when he filled it with sand it didnt budge till he got both hands on it.

So I am saying that that model sucks and get back to the drawing board at Core and while you are at it sort out that magnet on the power line as well. Yes, I do understand why its there but to me these both say made to address another design problem and not change the design, work in progress if you must.

So just what is "revolutionary" and either way its just a pelican clip activated by twist and not push/pull.

While I am at it, I thought the setup for ring attachment to leash was a bit make do as well. C'mon, pulling a small guage ring down a flexible line, I bet thats not too reliable is it?

From what I`ve seen It all looks a bit science project to me and lacking substance and any real advancement in its current form.

There is absolutely nothing that promotes this device to me yet and the rest of the vid has generally put me off.

Let me know when the next great revolution arrives!



http://vimeo.com/28148116


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 Post subject: Re: New Revolutionary Quick Release?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:06 am 
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JMF wrote:
Kamikuza wrote:
Biggest gear failure I had was an F-One chicken loop - the plastic/nylon/whatever body snapped off ... I'd settle for solid over simple!


Curious which one?

Erm ... maybe B-III? The F-One kites all looks the same to me :D I do remember seeing on here that they'd recalled or were issues free replacements for that model ... design flaw maybe.


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 Post subject: Re: New Revolutionary Quick Release?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:06 am 
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Not sure if this had been said before but will this release work when not under tension?

If your kite falls back into the window and the lines go slack, if you try to twist the release won't the whole chicken loop turn. You need the lines under tension to give you something to turn the release against. The pull away chicken loop always work as you are pulling against your body.

Not that revolutionary I think!!


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 Post subject: Re: New Revolutionary Quick Release?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:14 am 
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tom the ripper wrote:
http://vimeo.com/28148116 :roll:



If that is an independent test, then the twist system doesn't work very well if there's any sand around.

Twisting depends on how you grab the release. You can have a very small range of twist if you grab it the wrong way. Once there is force required, the chickenloop distorts and uses up much or maybe all of your range of movement.


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