Mr. D. Thank you for the respect. I also respect you. I have no problem with what you were trying to do. It is just the way you did it that struck me as... What!? I know some 300lb Kiters, maybe that is why I didn't get the joke, and by the way, they have never complained about their small kites "jelly fishing".
As I said I'm just trying to help. You certainly cannot depend on your cronies for an honest opinion. They seem to be brain washed...

thanks mr dimitri email sent

Mr ballonboy

I'm well past a troll. It's not like I do this randomly besides Dimitri asked me back to the thread... Tell me what you think, is it more respectable to call out the truth and make suggestions for improvement or blatantly and blindly support a brand simply because you are affiliated with that brand? Are you affiliated with "epic"? Personal friends with the D man. What have you got into this which makes you give a crap about what I have to say? Are you afraid your friends might think your kites are not as cool as you claim... Which is it?

Sincerely
Beyond troll...lol

It would appear that Dimitri is rarely embarrassed, that does not really seem to be in his DNA.
Pete, be honest with yourself and others, helping is not your agenda.
Not the case at all, if you look at posts from many loyal customers, you will find criticism to the product where it needs work and input as to where they would like to see the product go.
Most folks don't feel the need to post the kind of criticism that you often do, to make yourself feel good about yourself.
It is laughable that you are taking credit for the improvements that the Epic products have taken.
Your observation of the Infinity was the same as many people that tested the V1 kite.
A buddy of mine sent an email about the Infinity the first time he tried it.
You think that your posts/observations/input is what is steering the Epic ship?... really??
You took Dimitri's comments to you in that other thread at dead face value?..and you were not able to read anything else between the lines?...wow!
Dimitri's comments to you are very obviously an attempt to diffuse your bitterness with kindness.
You really don't see that, do you?

Oldnbroken, dude I'm on an iPad, how do you expect me to respond to that with the attention it deserves? Maybe tomorrow after kiting I'll respond but for now... Good night.

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No need really. Your message was very clear long ago.
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Voice of reason.... If that was a joke, I didn't get it.

dimitri, I had a renegade jellyfish only slightly, but it was really really soft. The renegades are so trusty that I don't really care what I pump them to full load. I'd be surprised if I had that to 6 psi tht day. But otherwise no issues on the renegades at any size. They have always worked great.

[vimeo]https://vimeo.com/45839168[/vimeo]

Check this out, Sylvain Bergé in Paros, in a short Oldschool edit! Enjoy guys!

Yeah the situation about the 7m Screamer that turned into a Renegade somehow sounds like a bad inflated kite. 11PSi. well i cant hardly get that into my kite 8/9 usually is more then enough.
Still cant wait for a better inflation valve. Or maybe even wrong rigged.

Been using my 12m 2010 Screamer up to 30 knots and it still kept shape.

Well i been to Fehmarn Germany this weekend and i can say i had a blast! Nuking winds my trusty old 12m and the clear waters. Wow beautifull over there.

I seen my friend's 3G Renegade 9m fold in above-described conditions more than once. The kite was pumped rock-hard, the rider is about 180lbs and on one of these occasions the kite inverted to make it more fun. So that's a fact.

I don't agree, however about the "that happens to all the kites" statement - because it doesn't! In my memory, the only kites i've seen folding were the first gen. Thrusters in smaller sizes and now - the Renegades.