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 Post subject: Re: EpicKites (3rd Generation. 3G kites)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:45 pm 
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aleks wrote:
That is the thing - on my bar the split to 2 central lines is way too high. I can't reach it to pull on top line only. Pulling on both of them doesn't do the trick for me.
That set up on the bar makes it much harder. I use a bar that splits down close on my Screamer 14M.
On my 11M I don't self land that way.
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My friend has Trigger 2012. Did Blade make it more powerful this year? Also people have different ideas about being well powered - I don't always agree with my friend on that :). I can only say that he stayed upwind pretty easily when began to struggle.
No. The 2010 to 2011 Blade Trigger kites differ, but the 2011 to 2012 have the same panel layout and power.


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 Post subject: Re: EpicKites (3rd Generation. 3G kites)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:54 pm 
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@aleks
pull the centre line until you get to the split, then grab the top one and pull. the top one will pull the one wingtip into the wind drooping the kite perfect. I'm using the Epic bar, but i think the method would be the same on all.


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 Post subject: Re: EpicKites (3rd Generation. 3G kites)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:30 pm 
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Dimitri M wrote:
Dear Mr. aleks,
Also remember the board plays a big role in light wind or strong wind. Maybe your board is not as efficient as your friend's board in light wind. If your board has a deeper rocker then it will be very slow in light wind hand hard to plan or stay up wind but good in stronger wind.

We have similar boards, but he is 20 lbs heavier. Anyways, let me re-tune the bar and test it again back to back on the same board. It will take a week or 2 though - I mostly ride on weekends and wind is not easy to find here.


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 Post subject: Re: EpicKites (3rd Generation. 3G kites)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:19 pm 
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KiteCulture wrote:
@aleks
pull the center line until you get to the split, then grab the top front line and pull. The top one will pull the upper side of the LE right down to the ground and into the wind. I'm using the Epic bar, but I think the method would be the same on all.

Depends on how far up the line the split is.
On the Blade bars the split is 20 feet up so that method is really tough.
With my Epic bar it is easier.
With my Ocean Rodeo bar the split is right up close to me and it is super easy.


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 Post subject: Re: EpicKites (3rd Generation. 3G kites)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:40 pm 
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Ah... I thought they were all more or less similar within a few feet....having said that, if you pull the front lines when it is at the edge, would it not go down pretty much the same, and then walk around to pulling flat? If in doubt, flag it out... That will always work, although its not as graceful.


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 Post subject: Re: EpicKites (3rd Generation. 3G kites)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:57 pm 
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The new (3G) Chicken Loop and new XTEND Bar that we have coming out soon, will make it easier to self land and kill the kite.


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 Post subject: Re: EpicKites (3rd Generation. 3G kites)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:08 pm 
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KiteCulture wrote:
Ah... I thought they were all more or less similar within a few feet....having said that, if you pull the front lines when it is at the edge, would it not go down pretty much the same, and then walk around to pulling flat? If in doubt, flag it out... That will always work, although its not as graceful.
sometimes when you pull and you are pulling both front lines the kite does not drop down as well as it should and will be out of position and sometimes you can get a relaunch, which tends to scare kiters. Self landing by using a rope that is affixed to something with a large hook or carabiner to put your chicken loop on. Fully depower the kite and put it down at the edge of the window and touching ground, it will sit waiting for you to walk up to it, as you walk to it, just touch the upper front line to keep it from relaunch. This is another good way to self land in everything other than high wind. In high wind, self landing is a bit scary but releasing to your safety can work fine.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:20 pm 
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Oldnbroken wrote:
Depends on how far up the line the split is.
On the Blade bars the split is 20 feet up so that method is really tough.
With my Epic bar it is easier.
With my Ocean Rodeo bar the split is right up close to me and it is super easy.


That's exactly the point. My old bar had a split right above depower, but now I use Zeeko bar and the split is somewhere in the middle between the kite and the bar (or at least it looks like it from my point). There is no way I can reach it.


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 Post subject: Re: EpicKites (3rd Generation. 3G kites)
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:24 am 
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aleks wrote:
Oldnbroken wrote:
Depends on how far up the line the split is.
On the Blade bars the split is 20 feet up so that method is really tough.
With my Epic bar it is easier.
With my Ocean Rodeo bar the split is right up close to me and it is super easy.


That's exactly the point. My old bar had a split right above depower, but now I use Zeeko bar and the split is somewhere in the middle between the kite and the bar (or at least it looks like it from my point). There is no way I can reach it.

Just keep pulling the center line - the kite'll balance on a tip then either slowly fall into the wind or sit there until you can pull the upper line. Do it all the time with my Cab's ...


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 Post subject: Re: EpicKites (3rd Generation. 3G kites)
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:22 am 
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Kamikuza wrote:
Just keep pulling the center line - the kite'll balance on a tip then either slowly fall into the wind or sit there until you can pull the upper line. Do it all the time with my Cab's ...


I did it with Cabs too, but does not work with the Screamer. My buddy even landed his Trigger from the first try, but Screamer kept bouncing back...


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