IKO did have a listing of instructors with some kind of rating thing... I remember it was pretty lame.el_guestos wrote: I actually think this is something that could be handled effectively by the IKO or similar governing body (in fact I'm sure the IKO used to have a page like this) ......
I dont agree with this, if you (as it seems) say this should be "normal" practice for all kite schoolstoyletbowl wrote:snip...
Regarding the accident in this thread.
It could have been prevented in my opinion.
1) 1 INSTRUCTOR = 1 KITE IN THE AIR. PERIOD.
You can have multiple students which often helps those watching to visualize, but an instructor can and should only have 1 kite in the air at once.
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Bob
www.kiteridersllc.com
Since I don’t know the details of your location, I may be making some incorrect assumptions, however:Peter_Frank wrote:I dont agree with this, if you (as it seems) say this should be "normal" practice for all kite schoolstoyletbowl wrote:snip...
Regarding the accident in this thread.
It could have been prevented in my opinion.
1) 1 INSTRUCTOR = 1 KITE IN THE AIR. PERIOD.
You can have multiple students which often helps those watching to visualize, but an instructor can and should only have 1 kite in the air at once.
Snip...
Bob
www.kiteridersllc.com
Having another pair of students sharing one kite more, close by, usually those that got the hang of it the fastest during the course (or it could also be the second day of a course) - is IMO no problem and it does not make sense not to do this.
Remember - the instructor can not do ANYTHING if shit hits the fan anyways, as the student is dragged downwind and away - and not possible to reach him/her (boats are/can not be used around here, and no deep water courses).
It is great to think about what CAN be done to improve the risk of accidental continous kiteloops, and a good thing to discuss, and the general thread is awesome in order to focus on what is possible
But making "overly" strict 1 one 1 or 1 kite only, that really is'nt safer, and might lead to less taking kite classes before starting, is not the solution IMO.
It might be different for those giving lessons in deep water and using boats - I can not comment on this, as it has never been used here in DK.
But for the typical kite lesson in knee/waist deep water, I dont see that 1 kite only is the solution
Most of the "water" time is spent doing downwind body drags - and apart from maybe the very first bodydrag with the instructor hanging "on" to the student, there is no chance of reaching the student
I dont say this is good - just a fact.
The same goes when learning to ride the board - when a student "wipes out" - the instructor has no chance of reaching the student downwind.
Too many students and kites is also a no go of course, I agree fully - as then the instructor will lose the overview of what happens and how they do and learn, and impossible to help if help could be given.
Peter
Thanks for your appreciation. However, I'm sorry to say that it is misplaced as far as our use of leashes goes.Jono 111 wrote:Hi Richard,
You seem to take safety seriously, which is commedable.
What do you do when one of your students tries to use a leash?
Do you simply refuse to provide the lesson or take a different approach?
Hopefully people like you can stop absurd practises by irresponsible instructors to stop this unsafe behaviour like this.
Somebody has to do it......you seem to be well placed.
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