I don't think I am ready to take that bet just yet because...SupaEZ wrote:Care to make it interesting?Laughingman wrote: I use a line keeper and I can connect them while my electric pump is pumping my kite.
Are you 100% sure that you can self launch faster than me..... let's say a 19m2 in 8-9 knots
We both work and make hard earned money
How about a $500 bet ? are you ready to lose that money in case you could be wrong?
P.S. I never bet unless i am 100% sure
That's a lot of money.....consult your wife first about this
You are fast compared to the people you kite with....but against me you are 100% sure ?
Here are the simple rules
Use your largest (17-18-19) kitte and have your wife film you....she cannot touch kite...or help
It has to be uncut in real time...all in one take
Start the clock from the moment you put the kite on the beach still folded
Stop the clock from the moment the kite successfully takes off the beach
I have done it ( with harness already on ) in 4 minutes 15 seconds......6 PSI in kite...27m lines..XR2
Already have my video to prove it.....last night session i rushed and got 19km2 up in 4 minutes flat
Get to work on yours
I think that is where we will leave it for now until someone can prove otherwise with a video but we will need to adjust the terms if its me since I do not have or want a kite that big.Westozzy wrote:So in summary:
1. Keeps lines attached but hand pumps...Supaez
2. One uses an compressor style pump with a line management system so they needednt lay out lines.
The former is a little quicker.
Is that right? Too many posts I'm getting slightly confused. lol.
u dont need line keeper. detach lines from kite keep rear lines outside, center lines inside. Lark's head the left rear onto the right rear. Now lark's head the right over both center lines and wrap the bar. When you kite again reverse the process, now you don't have to walk out the lines, they'll be ready just put the lines on the kite and unwrap the bar.Laughingman wrote:I'll take a picture tomorrow. It's really very simple, you could use a small stick if that was what was available to you.
Exactly. The video I linked to shows how this works.edt wrote:u dont need line keeper. detach lines from kite keep rear lines outside, center lines inside. Lark's head the left rear onto the right rear. Now lark's head the right over both center lines and wrap the bar. When you kite again reverse the process, now you don't have to walk out the lines, they'll be ready just put the lines on the kite and unwrap the bar.Laughingman wrote:I'll take a picture tomorrow. It's really very simple, you could use a small stick if that was what was available to you.
OzBungy wrote:I always detach the bar and lines. I also did when I used foils.
The main reasons:
- it is easier to handle the kite for packing, cleaning and maintenance.
- it is easier to handle the bar for packing, cleaning and maintenance (and I wash the bar and lines after most sessions.
- it is easier to walk to/from the beach flying the kite, upside down from the bridles, with the bar safely out of the way in my other hand.
- when packed the bar is away from the kite.
- I avoid excessive knotting, twisting and abrasion on the line ends which most definitely does weaken the lines.
- simplicity is always best. Wind out the lines. Attach them. Check them. Go kite. I always get out quicker than guys who use tricky methods. I always kite longer than other guys.
Laughingman wrote:Exactly. The video I linked to shows how this works.edt wrote:u dont need line keeper. detach lines from kite keep rear lines outside, center lines inside. Lark's head the left rear onto the right rear. Now lark's head the right over both center lines and wrap the bar. When you kite again reverse the process, now you don't have to walk out the lines, they'll be ready just put the lines on the kite and unwrap the bar.Laughingman wrote:I'll take a picture tomorrow. It's really very simple, you could use a small stick if that was what was available to you.
Laughingman wrote:
I don't think I am ready to take that bet just yet because...
1. Just finished an awesome day of kiting in 35 deg F air temp... Certainly not going to be timing or videoing in these conditions.
2. Most of the time I kite in areas where you must water launch
3. My biggest kite is a 13m so that would not be fair to you.
4. I would never pump a kite unless I had at least 10 knots of wind
So for the time being you are the king, but don't get too comfy... I'm no slouch and even if it did take me more time to pump my kite, that time can be used to prepare for launch.
Cheers
Pete