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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:07 pm 
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Ask any mountain climber if they would stake there lives on a metal o-ring!
That has to be the stupidest idea yet! :nono:


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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:13 pm 
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Hello Mr. "tomatkins",
Thank you for your inputs about the NAISH system. This is a very good system also. But I was looking at something much simpler that has only 1 piece something like the "O" Ring but nicer looking that won't break and looks like a pulley even if it is not.


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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:30 pm 
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And the reason they are better then "O" rings is because they look better and are more sexy then the "O" rings.

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Wow! Not to mention they are far safer because they don't shred your lines! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

I am sorry Mr. Hansen you see it that way, but I have been kiting on these "O"Rings for a long time. Maybe it is time for you to get in the water and start kiting so you can really do the testing on the "O"Ring.
Pulleys or "O" Rings do wear the lines after putting lots of ours kiting and I am not going to lie to you, everything wears after a lot of abuse. Same thing applies to the lines that goes through the hole of the bar. It is called WEARING.....
Also the thicker the line is the longer your lines will last. I have use both of these items and I have seen what they do. So again Mr. Hansen it is time for you to move out of your computer and get in the water so you can do a real test. I am going to the Cayman Islands next week for a photo shoot, hopefully I can start kiting again after my injury. So maybe you can join me and finally go kiting and test these items.
You know my number.
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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:41 pm 
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Ask any mountain climber if they would stake there lives on a metal o-ring!
That has to be the stupidest idea yet! :nono:


Hello Mr. Dale or should I say Mr."wytcap".
I don't understand your statement!!!
Can you explain me then why PARACHUTE guys use these "O" Rings on their parachutes?
You can check this under "PARACHUTE HARDWARE" and you will find the same type of "O" Rings. This is a link to help you out.
http://www.bkreng.com/hardware.html
That has to be even more stupid then your Mountain Climber.


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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:18 pm 
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Dimitri M wrote:
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Ask any mountain climber if they would stake there lives on a metal o-ring!
That has to be the stupidest idea yet! :nono:


Hello Mr. Dale or should I say Mr."wytcap".
I don't understand your statement!!!
Can you explain me then why PARACHUTE guys use these "O" Rings on their parachutes?
You can check this under "PARACHUTE HARDWARE" and you will find the same type of "O" Rings. This is a link to help you out.
http://www.bkreng.com/hardware.html
That has to be even more stupid then your Mountain Climber.


The issue is not necessarily that O rings are weak. They are probably very strong when made correctly, and used as designed. Although I will admit I have seen a few O rings bust in my sailing days when used incorrectly or put in extreme stress situations. Then again pulleys seemed to always break more frequently on the boats. :-?

The issue here appears to be that they can bind and wear bridles faster. At least that is my take on what is being said here. I don't believe the O rings mentioned for parachuting are used in the same way. Might be wrong though since I don't parachute.

Oh, and by the way there are rings used in certain areas of climbing. Rappel rings come to mind, although not exactly the same as an O ring I guess but similar concepts. Once again not an expert climber or anything just know I have seen them. Maybe there is a similar issue with them on some climbers forum somewhere. :lol:

Bottom line is everything wears down no matter what. Whether pulley, ring or slider you have to check your lines regularly.


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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:26 pm 
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Big D your are the MAN!!!

This has the be the funniest statement I have ever heard related to kite pulleys /O-rings EVER!!! :lol:
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And the reason they are better then "O" rings is because they look better and are more sexy then the "O" rings.


Look Better and More SEXY......Shit I want one!... No I want a Friggin PILE of them!!
I don't know about you, But I want to look better and more sexy...
All I need is a few Big D designed sliders!!!
No wonder Big D always gets the girl...He looks better and more sexy...Sliders baby... the secret is out.. :naughty:
Big D I Love ya Man. :thumb: .

Big D did you challenge MR Bill to a duel?
This could get interesting :naughty:

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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:53 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:00 pm 
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Wow... 2800 pounds breaking strength... I would have guessed much less


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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:02 pm 
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OldnbrokenYou are from Joysey, right?


That's right Joisey you got a problem with that?

This is what happens you cram millions of people in a small place with no patience, all in a hurry to go no where, sometimes you get a little crazy.....
Kinda like the strip in Austin on a hot summer night, felt right at home there...

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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
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