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 Post subject: Re: Why are pump bases flat?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:24 pm 
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14ToeSide wrote:
I think I have FLAT missed the Point!!!! :desperado: :desperado: :desperado: :desperado: :desperado: :desperado:


Just ask any FLAT-footed FLAT-tailed FLAT-ulent Beaver and he will explain :cool2: :bravo:


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 Post subject: Re: Why are pump bases flat?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:14 pm 
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consumer wrote:
The fact is: our bodies do not move in a perfect vertical line when we pump. We actually move in an arc. It's not ridiculous to think that modifying the angle of the base might make pumping less awkward.


If you don't want to use one of the electric pumps mentionned Here
... The idea is definitely to pump without bending your back at all.
Keeping your body straight and just bending your arms.

Here is another great solution to the problem: the extended shaft from Saucisseman.
This is a reversible modification - easy DIY for less than 5 USD.

Enjoy !
http://saucisseman.free.fr/no-lumbago.htm
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Another DIY alternative:
http://www.thekiteboarder.com/2010/02/workbench-the-ultimate-kite-pump/

Then, there are alternate solutions ranging from 120 to 250+ USD
Scott's one-stroke extended pump: http://awesomekitepump.com/


The compressed air Volo paint ball bottle solution: http://pumpkiteup.com/


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 Post subject: Re: Why are pump bases flat?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:06 pm 
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with headlines like that they should ask questions like?

Do you flash back to prison showers every time you pump your kite?

Does bending over make you squeeze your butt cheeks so tight it pulls a muscle?

With our new and improved pump you can stand erect all day long :naughty: :naughty:


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 Post subject: Re: Why are pump bases flat?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:12 pm 
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I think this is a great question. The little stumpy pumps that are most common totally suck! They're short and stumpy with anemic volume and have you needlessly bending over to pump. If you're not travelling, why not go for something with some more muscle and better design?

For a sport that loves how much innovation there's been with kites over a short period of time, you'd think people wouldn't be hating on a bit of pump innovation. I'm surprised these flamers aren't trying to tell everyone they should be trying to blow up their kites with their own lips! The proof is in the pumping on the first video above. That pump smokes the little stumpy ones out there and no bending over for your soap! I wonder if it has a metal shaft though for us winter kiters. Volo is cool but way pricey.

But all you flamers out there are free to keep using your stump-pumps that haven't changed since the 90s! Just don't ask to borrow an innovative pump next time you see it - cuz we already know you hate 'em! :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Why are pump bases flat?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:01 pm 
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The Awsomekitepump is ergonomic but expensive.

http://awesomekitepump.com/

If you take a Cabrinha/Nobile pump (which is one of the taller standard pumps) 45cm high, 22cm wide and 10cm thick, and if you put it on a frame 33cm high, you get something similar for someone 175cm tall. The internal width would need to be 22cm for my feet.
You can adjust the height of the frame to match the height of the person.

One way would be to make something that looked a bit like a drawer with a slot at one end of the bottom for your feet to poke through. Set it on the end with the slot and bolt the pump to it or have bolts with wing nuts and slots cut in the pump base so you can assemble it quickly at the beach.
Or I suppose you could make one with a wide board art the top and bottom and a length of rectangular wood for the centre post, which could be cheaper and simpler.


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 Post subject: Re: Why are pump bases flat?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:30 am 
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Another plus for big valves - just pump using your arms. Take off the skirt, bend your knees, bend over, work out your triceps and brachioradialis and harden the fuck up. :thumb:


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 Post subject: Re: Why are pump bases flat?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:41 am 
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Kamikuza wrote:
Another plus for big valves - just pump using your arms. Take off the skirt, bend your knees, bend over, work out your triceps and brachioradialis and harden the fuck up. :thumb:


AGREED ABOUT ONLY USING ARMS TO BUILD STRONG MY "LATISSIMUS DORSI MUSCLE"
WORK OUT YOUR "LATS" MAN :cool2:


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 Post subject: Re: Why are pump bases flat?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:38 am 
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:cool2: :cool2: +3 for Kamikuza


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 Post subject: Re: Why are pump bases flat?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:30 am 
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Ned Divine wrote:
consumer wrote:
The fact is: our bodies do not move in a perfect vertical line when we pump. We actually move in an arc. It's not ridiculous to think that modifying the angle of the base might make pumping less awkward.

You guys have any idea how bonkers people go over a sliding spreader bar or a new safety leash?

This is simple question with an even simpler solution. Why are people so quick to flame?

Peter Frank described it perfectly.


People are quick to flame in order to quickly show how clever, witty, macho, important, fun, cool or what have you they are. Kiteforum gives them a chance to quickly show off their importance to fellow KF users. Respect. :baby:


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 Post subject: Re: Why are pump bases flat?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:43 am 
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14ToeSide wrote:
:cool2: :cool2: +3 for Kamikuza

I demand the correct number of smilies! :angryfire:


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