Didn't know that about wainmans, thought I saw pulleys and bridles on them also but I guess you learn something every day!

I have a friend with Bandits, 2010's I think? Every hindenburg ends in deathloop and full release of kite as safety doesnt work.

My Rebels, I must have Hindenburged them at least 10 times, 9/10 times just relaunched as usual once the slack had come out of the lines, 1 time though the the steering line had gone through the center line which I sorted out on the water with help from another kiter. I have crashed going hard at the kite and wrapped the 5th after the kite tumbled, I tried to sort it out but ended up going to the beach. I have been able to successfully relaunch the kite after releasing it to the safety though.

I also like the short compact pulley and slider less bridles some manufacturers are going to, seems like it would be a make for a very safe bridle that not much could go wrong with.

I should have been more clear: The Wainman kites do come with bridles, but on all sizes 9m and smaller, you have the option to remove the bridle and instead connect the front lines directly to the leading edge (the so-called "single line setup"). By removing the bridles, the steering becomes a bit more direct and reactive (and of course, you get rid of the risk of a bridle wrapping around a wingtip).


I hate when that happens. It is a tricky situation to sort out on the water by yourself, but it can be done. One solution is to first disconnect the safety and pass it above the bar (on the correct side....) back down to the safety connection point, re-connect the safety, then unhook the chicken loop and quickly pull the center lines around (the correct...) bar end, allowing the bar to rotate around it's own axis, then hook back in. It is tricky to describe but if you visualize the problem and the lines in your mind you can probably see the steps that need to be taken. Think it through carefully though before you start, and be ready to release the kite completely if something goes wrong...


Exactly, that's the way to do it. (Don't activate the safety release though - simply unhook the chicken loop from the harness hook and let go of the bar for a while.)

Guys,
thanks for all the precious help.

So to recap my understanding is the following: in case of wrap around the 5th line, recommended thing to do is unhook (not actioning the safety on the chicken loop), remain attached with the leash connected to 5th, let go of bar and basically wait.

Correct?

Thanks a lot for all the help, this would solve quite a problem. It's still not funny, but better than having to wait for rescue i guess!

Either way, the way these Rebels literally fly&float is amazing and worth the hassle for me!

my friend
ENJOY YOUR AWESOME REBELS

Correct, that usually works. The kite will then usually spin around after a while so that the 5th line un-wraps itself from the kite.