IS there any positive aspects to chicken loops that detach from the trim line and stay on your spreader bar?
i have one of these bars. i haven't ever needed to release the safety( for lack of better term). but that one time it popped on its own and i couldn't sort it out fast enough and my kite ended up in the prickers i was bullshit.
( no brand bashing from me, i think the company's gear is very utilitarian and well built aside from that one bogus design)
whats the point of this design ?
I dont get it!

I know the major brand that you are referring to and it is just poor engineering. I keep expecting them to change every year but they stick with this poor design (at least through 2012). I know people who have lost their chicken loops because of this bad design and then they must buy replacement parts. It is a shame because the kites are nice otherwise.

Most companies just open one side of the chicken loop when you pull the release, so nothing becomes disconnected, and things are easier to reattach.. a much better design.

CG

I never had a problem with it when I flew my Rabbits. I don't use a donkey dick so if I need to release I unhook and let go. I don't like the donkey I think they are not safe. In the event of things going bad I don't want any lines near me or the bar in my reach to make things worse.

the point of the design is NOBODY wants to pay the patent license for a decent chicken loop.

Which means every chicken loop system is slightly different and most of them are garbage.

thejoe a donkey dick makes life safer in lite wind, because when it is too lite to reverse relaunch you have to grab the opposite or center line and roll the kite on its back, and if you try this without a donkey dick keeping the chicken loop in place you get spaghetti all over your legs.

If he's riding in such winds that he considers a donkey dick unsafe, I'd take a guess that he's not talking about light wind.

One of the benefits is that you can have a clean clean clean system, look at the flexifoil or mutiny quick release system, it's a piece of webbing folded over. It's super simple and I don't see how it could possibly break. Some systems like slingshot, north I would consider "better" because it doesn't all come apart, but is prone to issues like sticking if you get sand in it, or a pin can get bent (see recent thread) etc.

One of the things I really like about the chicken loop that detaches on one side, is you can put your flag out line through it to ride suicide, and still have a functional quick release. I never hit the QR unless someone tangles with me but it's nice knowing that it's there. And nice that I don't have to wear out my center lines from my leash clip rubbing on it.

Never have a problem with light wind or reverse launch and I fly Fuels not easy to relaunch in light winds. In light winds I just don't go out if I can not get the kite in the air with out self launch. If its that light I just go to the cable, the gym, or sleep.

The only place that I have a problem with a relaunch is in the waves. Hard to stay hooked in with waves crashing on you. I usually just hold the chicken loop in one hand relaunch with the other hand on the bar if I'm having problems.

Interesting post because I have been the owner of several different kite brands and when I came across the one that leaves the chicken loop behind on the spreader bar, I purposefully converted this system over to all of my other bars. IMHO, I think it is one less thing to go wrong when you need out fast. It is clean, simple and all of the parts are easily visible. Although I am predominately a Gorge kiter, I also snowkite, and one time, I released an open ended chicken loop and the open end got hung up on my spreader bar and would not release. I have always thought that this could happen in water too.

I will put up my 19m and go every time when it's lite. The donkey dick is invaluable for safer kiting in these conditions. Trying to hold a chicken loop in one hand, the bar in the other hand, and grab the center lines with your teeth to roll the kite on its back is just asking for trouble. Sometimes you need both hands to relaunch. When the wind picks up, I take the donkey dick out, but cutting off my donkey dick for good would mean I wouldn't get to ride all summer and that's simply not acceptable.

I've been riding LF CPR for a few years now and just run my leash through the chicken loop in bigger winds.

Lost my chicken loop once bc I didn't run my leash through it. It sucked balls but after that I always make sure I run my leash through it... Hopefully I don't make this mistake twice