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 Post subject: Re: Strapless, what's the fuzz all about??
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:29 pm 
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I have riddeen both boards. The Celeratus will be better in smaller mushy waves and easier to learn to transition due to its wider tail. Tyrant will be better in big real surf. I vote for the Celeartus as your first board. No affiliation with SS


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 Post subject: Re: Strapless, what's the fuzz all about??
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:40 pm 
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BBQFish wrote:
I have tried to go strapless for the last 5 sessions now.
What i find is that i'm more busy trying to keep in contact with my board, then trying to get waves!
Getting over the chop is seriously wearing my legs out in no time at all, if i'm able to stay on the board that is.
Feels like my skill level has been taken back 3 years!

Can somebody explain to me what i should be looking for in this strapless style surfing?



It'll get better. Once you practice a little you'll relax more and this will not even be an issue.
...then you'll start using that chop to jump a little...then you'll get it. :-)
...it is not taking your skills back, you are developing new skills, and I bet you that it will increase your kiting skills overall.

To me there is not too much difference straps or no straps unless the waves are really big, then I like straps. I don't really get the whole free argument. I find it convenient to not have straps, but if I have my straps in the right spot I'll surf well with straps.

What I do like about strapless is that it is a little more technical. Not as much brute force, as it is control. You develop a different kind of skill set. tricks looks smooth strapless because making a tiny mistake your board drops. Tacks and duck tacks look super nice on the strapless board, and your surfing will be better because of the kite control skills you develop when riding it.

Generally I go on my skaters these days, and I mostly ride strapless. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Strapless, what's the fuzz all about??
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:47 am 
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irwe wrote:
I have riddeen both boards. The Celeratus will be better in smaller mushy waves and easier to learn to transition due to its wider tail. Tyrant will be better in big real surf. I vote for the Celeartus as your first board. No affiliation with SS


Thank you very much. Other fellas suggested me the Celeritas as well. In a few words it seems the tyrant is a surf gun for big waves and strong winds. Celeritas if a more all around, friendly, not amazing waves surf. I´ll go for the celeritas and let you know how it worked. Thanks again.


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 Post subject: Re: Strapless, what's the fuzz all about??
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:39 am 
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Glue your feet to the board like the pros do :thumb:
That will make it easier and more fun, just don't start your session by stepping on seashells :P


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:04 am 
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If you've been riding a TT for a while, it may take more time to dial the board in. Most people I see ride with the tail anchored in too much when they first come from a TT. And, they give up too fast because it's really no fun(or efficient) riding like that. Here's a few tips that might help.
* Weight more centered on the board. Ride the board more flat so you can utilize more fin and less edge.
* Back foot up closer to center and also more parallel to front foot(no duck stance). This will naturally drive your back knee into your front leg, helping you engage your hips and flatten the board.
*Like Mike D already stated, "Ride the board with light feet"(and loose bent knees). Like a surfer does.

Once you dial it in, you will probably never back to straps. Even when it's big, you will want to challenge yourself to go strapless. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Strapless, what's the fuzz all about??
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:29 am 
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BBQFish,

Strapless... don't do it! :nono:

First, you try strapless. :D Then, your boards get bigger. :roll: Then, you try surfing. 8) Then, you get a SUP. :o Then, you put your kites away for good. :bye:

It's a slipper slope that you're on my friend. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Strapless, what's the fuzz all about??
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:04 am 
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I am one of the blokes that tried a sb strapless and strapped. didn't really like it and now i'm loving a mutant!... not because i'm a lazy bloke or a quitter,, the mutant suits my style better.

What I found was this.

I found the straps to be less limiting in terms of jumping/boosting on the way out. but more limiting on the wave face. i did prefer the strapless on the wave face and felt more free and more surf feel.

note i am not a hardened surfer of many years and do not feel the urge to surf waves exactly like a surfer on a surf board.

If you love blazing down the line then i think strapless is a good option.

Personally i prefer a good boost on the way out and an upwind wave ride to get back to were i started to do it all over again.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:22 am 
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I'm a total beginner at strapless (fewer than 10 sessions), but I really like the challenge and the novelty. I've been riding twin tips for the past 10 years, and I can't remember the last time I had a really great session on a twin tip in less than 20 knots. With a surfboard I was having a great time even when the wind was too marginal to stay upwind. Will I still like strapless in a few years when I've gotten better? I have no idea, but for now I am having a lot of fun in conditions that I wouldn't have bothered rigging for with a twin tip.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:31 am 
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BBQFish wrote:
I have tried to go strapless for the last 5 sessions now.
What i find is that i'm more busy trying to keep in contact with my board, then trying to get waves!
Getting over the chop is seriously wearing my legs out in no time at all, if i'm able to stay on the board that is.
Feels like my skill level has been taken back 3 years!

Can somebody explain to me what i should be looking for in this strapless style surfing?


First of all move around on the board more.

For example when going out and going over chop move your weight forward. I sometimes have as much board behind my feet as in front of my feet. This will make the board straddle the chop more than impact it. When you are on the back of the board the front flaps around on the chop bouncing you up and down. Further forward you also ride more efficiently and go upwind with less power.

Here is what I ride:

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When going out over chop and going upwind the toes of my front foot are
just behind the plus sign logo.

Step back when you carve and smack the lip of a wave. Then hop forward for you bottom turn. It will make the bottom turn much faster and get you back to the face with more board speed.

Best thing is that this way of riding lets you use surfboards with just the right amount of tail rocker that feels so much better in the surf. Most kite company directionals don't have enough rocker IMO.

Relax more on the board and let muscle memory do most of the work.

Strangely enough I progressed a lot in one session when I rode after dark and could not see the chop. I just went with the muscle memory and the feel.



BUT ABOVE ALL .... enjoy the splashes....



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 Post subject: Re: Strapless, what's the fuzz all about??
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:20 pm 
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www.thekiteboarderschool.com houses 8 years of instructional content for free from The Kiteboarder Magazine. Also, we just produced Strapless Surf Instructional E-Mag available for download for $2.99. Both are great resources for budding strapless riders. Enjoy!


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