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 Post subject: Trouble with self landing
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:57 am 
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So I can't seem to do a good self land lately... I usually set the kite down at the edge, walk up both center lines, then switch to the top center line and pull it over. Although lately the kite just relaunches and I just pull it in on one line. Works but could be a little scary. What am I doing wrong? Should I pull on the bottom center line, both center lines?

I know there are other methods like fixed point but those won't work at my beach. Thanks for some help.


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 Post subject: Re: Trouble with self landing
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:06 pm 
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rightguard wrote:
I usually set the kite down at the edge, walk up both center lines, then switch to the top center line and pull it over.


Lower the kite slowly at the edge of window, have your hand on the upper center line, keep bar depowered. As the wingtip touches the ground, pull hard by the upper center line so that the kite falls over to your side.


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 Post subject: Re: Trouble with self landing
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:16 pm 
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Ralfs by the sound of it has a center line that divides a little way up into a Y. So needs to walk up a little before he pulls the top front line. What's your solutions then?


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 Post subject: Re: Trouble with self landing
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:21 pm 
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Westozzy wrote:
Ralfs by the sound of it has a center line that divides a little way up into a Y. So needs to walk up a little before he pulls the top front line. What's your solutions then?


I don't know, then it might be harder. I have had 5-line kites where one simply pulls the 5th line or 4 line kites where both front lines are separated already at the bar (kind of V, not Y). If it is Y, then yes, the dividing point needs to be reached....


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 Post subject: Re: Trouble with self landing
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:43 pm 
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Bring your kite down close to the water, use the safety, walk up line to the kite, safe, wet, intached kite. Landing on land in marginal winds works well using methods discussed, Fixed point is good in higher winds. If you want to trash your kite or yourself landing on land in high winds just to have a dry kite is not smart.


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 Post subject: Re: Trouble with self landing
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:43 pm 
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I have cabrinha kites where the Y is up the line a bit. I get it to the edge, Pull on the single center which usually works. But can end up floating the kite a bit. If so I quickly walk up the line and pull the top center that has seemed to help. Im experimenting with pulling the top center first.

Im pretty sure that by pulling the center lines firmly the kite cannot relaunch and also cant generate much power. It may take a few seconds for it to settle down (the kite sometimes flutters around a bit and Im paranoid it will somehow get into a position to catch wind), but so far once the leading edge points into the wind, the wind will force the kite to the ground.


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 Post subject: Re: Trouble with self landing
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:06 pm 
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rightguard wrote:
So I can't seem to do a good self land lately... I usually set the kite down at the edge, walk up both center lines, then switch to the top center line and pull it over. Although lately the kite just relaunches and I just pull it in on one line. Works but could be a little scary. What am I doing wrong? Should I pull on the bottom center line, both center lines?

I know there are other methods like fixed point but those won't work at my beach. Thanks for some help.


Different kites behave very different regarding this, and IMO is it not always possible to self land this way because some kites ARE just more difficult, and some surfaces wont allow this landing.
In other situations very easy.

Assume you kite where you can not use the "stake" method ?
Which we always use otherwise, even if not alone, as safer and you can always land if the others are still out.

I am not much for advocating "walking up the lines", because of the risk of getting cut or having a line wrap...

But, must admit I use thís method myself now and then, if I am out and want to put the kite down on flat sand or maybe slippery sand because of seagrass or small round rocks or similar, especially if I want to take a break or make an adjustment or turn my kitecam on or something, so instead of kiting maybe several kilometers/miles back to the launch point/cars, I find a small sand bank - put the kite on the side on the sand, put the bar on the sand/water - and walk all the way up to the kite by BOTH frontlines :naughty:

This way you can set a kite down very precise :thumb:

Launching could be done the same way just reversed, but easier to just slide it up or let it drift in the water for a relaunch.

The reason I sometimes use this method, is because of the precision you can put the kite down, and you can do it no matter what surface, if rough or slippery and even in low water too :rollgrin:

Another way of doing it, if you can not use the normal stake method.

If you are using big kites 9m2 or more, it is quite often easy to land like you describe - but for waveriding with 4 to 7m2 kites, it is NOT always possible to put the kite down this way, as they will slide on a slippery surface because of the wind speed :wink:

:D Peter


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 Post subject: Re: Trouble with self landing
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:18 pm 
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acctx wrote:
I have cabrinha kites where the Y is up the line a bit. I get it to the edge, Pull on the single center which usually works. But can end up floating the kite a bit. If so I quickly walk up the line and pull the top center that has seemed to help. Im experimenting with pulling the top center first.

Im pretty sure that by pulling the center lines firmly the kite cannot relaunch and also cant generate much power. It may take a few seconds for it to settle down (the kite sometimes flutters around a bit and Im paranoid it will somehow get into a position to catch wind), but so far once the leading edge points into the wind, the wind will force the kite to the ground.


with my 2011 SB i could bring the kite from 12 down to 45 where i fully ease out the bar releasing most of the power and the kite all in a swift motion and the kite would drop unto the LE and i would run the nearest edge line around pulling the kite directly into the wind sitting on the beach , can do this with my 2012 rebel too


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 Post subject: Re: Trouble with self landing
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:03 pm 
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Yeah my y is a little farther up so it makes it hard to grab one line until I walk up a bit. It stays there until I get to one line but when I pull on the top line in tends to roll over down the beach. I hold on to the one line and walk up the line to the kite, but I could see that if I slipped it could be a bad tangle since my bar is nowhere near me.

I'll try walking up both lines all the way to the kite, maybe that will help. I don't have to land by myself often but it's nice to know I can. Like self launching I only do it when I have no choice.


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 Post subject: Re: Trouble with self landing
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:33 pm 
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Forgive me if I'm missing something but why does nobody just stay in waist deep water and bring their kite onto the water and use their quick release to activate the safety and wind up their lines onto the bar, pick their kite up and walk to the sand? surely trying to self land on the beach itself is inviting injury or kite damage if it goes wrong. It's also good practice and makes sure your safety actually works effectively. I never self land any other way and it usually only takes 5 minutes to sort the lines out afterwards but like I say, I may be missing something.


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