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 Post subject: Re: Seaking helicopter incident leaves kite surfer injured
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:34 am 
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Talk about co-incidence.

Missplaced a kiter this evening and had to call the emergency services.
within 15 mins they sent 1 x RNLI F"£ing awesome lifeboat, 1 x totally cool rather deafening Snea King helicopter and 1 x really sound expert cliff rescue team!!!

The kiter is well, can`t wait to read tomorrows paper...

Guess who got him first ?

And about choppers gliding, well gyrocopter you might think....however that is all bullshit!
A fixed wing mate of mine explained it really clearly... Choppers, being so fing ugly do not actually fly but are repulsed by the ground!


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 Post subject: Re: Seaking helicopter incident leaves kite surfer injured
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:20 am 
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One million parts, all trying to go in different directions, and all manufactured by the lowest bidder.


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 Post subject: Re: Seaking helicopter incident leaves kite surfer injured
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:15 am 
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Ned Divine wrote:
Is a helicopter pilot not the right person to suggest how feasible it is to sneak up on people with a helicopter?

Depends.

Who was better to advise on facebook stock on opening day: a trained analyst that liked it for some reason (thousands to be found), or a layperson who could see the P/E ratio and business model were crazy and flawed, respectively?

Anyway, to Captain's credit, "sneak up" is a relative term. You can sneak up and 'surprise' someone on the ground with a fast and/or hidden approach, but they'll still know you're there before they experience any rotor wash.


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 Post subject: Re: Seaking helicopter incident leaves kite surfer injured
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:58 pm 
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What? they don't glide? well come to think of it they are kinda shaped like a jagged rock lol

So no takers on the re-roofing huh... comon... I know there's lots in here with spare time... like me :)


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 Post subject: Re: Seaking helicopter incident leaves kite surfer injured
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:44 pm 
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You are safer in a helicopter if the engine quits vs. an airplane, but explaining that is a whole other thread...


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 Post subject: Re: Seaking helicopter incident leaves kite surfer injured
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:09 pm 
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The Captain wrote:
You are safer in a helicopter if the engine quits vs. an airplane
...

I watched a rather Large Chinook Helicopter from Camp Pendleton, do
an emergency ((engine Out)) Landing, next to the parking lot of Cardiff by the sea Ca.
The maneuver is called an auto-rotation.

40min later another Heli showed up with several mechanics and fix the first one,
then both of them took off and flew away.

What does a Chinook weigh ?
How long a runway would an airplane of equal weight need , to glide in
with the engine Not running ?

It took me Several tail rotors and a bunch of booms to learn to auto rotate my
11Lb Gas XL -- RC Heli, so i'm gonna assume it ain't easy to do it on a Real one ??

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 Post subject: Re: Seaking helicopter incident leaves kite surfer injured
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:54 pm 
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Not too hard...thing slow down as they get bigger.

Even if you go into the trees, you are likely to at least walk away, even if you trash the aircraft.


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 Post subject: Re: Seaking helicopter incident leaves kite surfer injured
PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:39 am 
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Last Sunday - another search action in Zeebrugge and Blankenberge.
SeaKing and a coulpe of search vessels employed. A 9 yearsd old boy lost by parents claiming that he went to swim.
The beach was immediately closed on a distance of 7km by 2-3 hours.
On some stage an eager helicopter pilot decided to search the would-be drowned boy over the crowdy beach something like 200m off the waterline. Idiot! People experienced a real sand storm. Not happy at all.
Despite my kite was secured by kilograms of wet sand put over each canopy there was na chances to keep it on the ground. Took off and tore a canopy flying over the beach. My session was over for good.

BTW. The boy was found playing with friends and probably wondering WTF - why people do not go swimming for last 3 hours?

Should I claim the kite repairing costs to the boy's parents neglecting their basic role or to the Belgium SAR?


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 Post subject: Re: Seaking helicopter incident leaves kite surfer injured
PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:16 am 
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Now that su-x !

I for sure would go after the parents. They must have a liability insurance.

Or maybe any lawyer around who could help with opinion?


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 Post subject: Re: Seaking helicopter incident leaves kite surfer injured
PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:19 pm 
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BraCuru wrote:
Last Sunday - another search action in Zeebrugge and Blankenberge.
SeaKing and a coulpe of search vessels employed. A 9 yearsd old boy lost by parents claiming that he went to swim.
The beach was immediately closed on a distance of 7km by 2-3 hours.
On some stage an eager helicopter pilot decided to search the would-be drowned boy over the crowdy beach something like 200m off the waterline. Idiot! People experienced a real sand storm. Not happy at all.
Despite my kite was secured by kilograms of wet sand put over each canopy there was na chances to keep it on the ground. Took off and tore a canopy flying over the beach. My session was over for good.

BTW. The boy was found playing with friends and probably wondering WTF - why people do not go swimming for last 3 hours?

Should I claim the kite repairing costs to the boy's parents neglecting their basic role or to the Belgium SAR?


Always difficult....

IF the boy was found alive by this very helicopter, everyone would have said "great, and the kite is just a material small thing compared and even you would probably say the same" 8)

So these choppers always has to react, even when it turns out there actually was noone in danger so it was "overkill".

Which I think we to some extent really appreciate, if it was us or our own children.

Whether it is just "bad luck" or you could claim SAR for the repair, I dont know (but not the parents IMO).

I havent read the whole thread, only the last few posts, so sorry if I it is a different issue being discussed.

:D Peter


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