So I want to try a loop transition jump...

Where do I loop for least amount of power? High or Low

So traveling along kite at 11 or so....
send kite back towards 1 and then loop hard????

Thanks for any help

Can you forward roll? If so try that first. Do your rotation as usual with your front hand on the bar, then 3 quarters of the way round, keep pulling on your front hand. Land heelisde if your wish but I find it easier to land on my toes. What kite are you looping though. The quicker and less aggressive pull the kite the lower you can pull on the front hand, if a pulling machine
Ike it used to be on my rebel, pull sooner to give it enough time to loop and start its journey back up again.

I was thinking more of just a floaty jump, loop kite, change direction. I've been trying it with a down loop can sort of pull it off but I want to loop the kite back. I'm scared that its going to pull me out of my shorts so can't quit bring myself to try it. Wondering if I start the loop when the kite is at 12 or wait for it to get across the wind window. Seen a few people do it but never get the chance to really watch the kite, as it's over before I know it's going to happen.

By the way, no I can't do a forward roll, back roll yes. I've done it by accident in the back roll and it yanks me up and on my back. Not the nicest landing...

Oops Naish parks and bolts...

I think I know what you mean... here's how I do it Basically...

Going left to right... send the kite back to 11 to jump... up-tiddly-up-up... when the time is right* pull with the front (right) hand to start a loop... land with the board pointing downwind and change edges to ride in the new direction.

*Points to note...
The timing for the loop varies with kites and conditions.
Start the loop sooner (when you're higher above the water) if your kite is slow to turn.
Sheet out more and give it more bar to make a faster loop with less power (usually!)
Standard rules for loops apply: loop from 11 so the kite circles over your head - more float, less yank; or redirect and loop once the kite passes 1 - more yank and speed downwind, less float...
You may need to land with the board pointing more downwind or at the kite, or land on your toeside then quickly transition to heel side... I usually twist my hips just before I touch down, to land the board flat then carve out the new direction.

IMO how to learn it is...
Do a standard 'slide' transition (heel-to-heel) but instead of redirecting the kite by pulling on your back hand, loop the kite by pulling on your front hand, and timing the board to change direction...
Then try it with a jump.

It's not hard

Use your Bolt. If it starts pulling too hard you can still sheet out and get rid of power. You can do that on your Park too, but it is even more effective on the Bolt.

First few times just take it slow. Go marginally powered. Looping the kite is all about getting used to what happens. When you do a transition like that at some point you want more pull, but start just getting the move, so do your jump, loop, land and keep on pulling the kite through and ride off on the new direction. Do not pull as hard as you can, do a low one in the beginning IMO, then as you get used to it, tighten it up.

The front roll downloop is great and will feel very natural. You can also do a backroll downloop transition, which is low risk, but your bar ends up with two twists on it.

Must have the aerial transition right first. Jump vertically with low speed (must pop a bit at the time of the take off, don't send the kite too far back, a bit back and then at 12) and keep looking forward until you are at the apex of your jump. Then look back (to the new direction) and pull very hard with your back hand (the new front hand) until the kite does a power downstroke and then send it up again with your new back hand (a figure of eight kite move inside the wind window).

When you have this nailed, repeat but when you send the kite down with your new front hand, keep pulling on it until the kite loops 360 degrees. The later you do this loop, the lower you will be and the less powerful the yank (actually, doing it on the way down there will be almost no yank at all, just some pull to get you going). If you do the loop earlier (progress slowly to that, don't hurry) then you will be higher and you will feel the wonderful downwind yank from the loop. In this case turn the board to face downwind to avoid faceplanting. Keep a safe distance from shore and other kiters when learning kiteloops. Don't do your first tries underpowered or - even more important - overpowered!... Enjoy!!!

The longer you leave the loop the less transition power it has.

So. start of by waiting until you stall then pull hard on the back hand and hold on.

then as your confidence grows pull the loop sooner until your pulling it as soon as you leave the water. i quite like smacking a small wave lip or white wash and throwing the transition loop.

a hint i like is letting go of the front hand.

I think tautologies and I are talking about doing the loop in one direction, and Ned and plummet are talking about doing in the other... I seem to remember arguments about naming conventions - but I'm going to call them front- and back-loops based on which hand you pull vis-a-vis your direction of travel at the start of the loop, and before a change in direction.

So me & tt are suggesting a front-loop, which I think is dead easy - it's just a regular jump, loop by pulling with your FRONT hand, and transition as you land.
P & N are talking about a back-loop... which may also prove to be easy... hmm. Will try that next time I'm out - may solve the problem of having the kite rush to the edge of the window and losing power too - although I bet you'll lose some ground downwind. Mind you, you do with a front-loop too

Unless, of course, I've misunderstood what they're talking about

Kamikuza, that is what I mean by down loop or front loop. I've been trying that doesn't seem to pull much when done on the way down from the jump...

I think I just realized what you guys are saying by early or late. I thought it was where the kite is but you mean, what part of the jump I'm in. So if I start loop on the way up in the jump it will pull harder...

Ok one more question...
If I'm traveling left flying kite at 11 I like to do a pendulum jump where I send the kite way back to 1 or 2 and just swing under the kite. Then I just fall out of the sky since kite is out of the wind window and has no pull. Can I throw a loop at the end of this to get the kite back into window without a yank and prevent the falling out of the sky?