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 Post subject: Switch Nitro 4 : How to fix the long bridle issue ?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:07 pm 
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Hello,

Has anyone found a solution with the Nitro 4 bridle being too long ?

Once every unhooked trick that involve the kite to stale a bit on the side of the wind window my kite ends up being wrapped up around the bridle. I ended up in some pretty tricky situation few times that could have been dangerous and or damage the kite...

Has anyone found a solution to fix this ?

Cheers


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 Post subject: Re: Switch Nitro 4 : How to fix the long bridle issue ?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:53 pm 
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I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but it's better to ask on the Switch forum :thumb:


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 Post subject: Re: Switch Nitro 4 : How to fix the long bridle issue ?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:02 am 
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flysurfing wrote:
Hello,

Has anyone found a solution with the Nitro 4 bridle being too long ?

Once every unhooked trick that involve the kite to stale a bit on the side of the wind window my kite ends up being wrapped up around the bridle. I ended up in some pretty tricky situation few times that could have been dangerous and or damage the kite...

Has anyone found a solution to fix this ?

Cheers




I once used a hammer when I needed a screwdriver, didn't work.

Can anyone advise? :o :o :o


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 Post subject: Re: Switch Nitro 4 : How to fix the long bridle issue ?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:01 pm 
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flysurfing wrote:
Hello,

Has anyone found a solution with the Nitro 4 bridle being too long ?

Once every unhooked trick that involve the kite to stale a bit on the side of the wind window my kite ends up being wrapped up around the bridle. I ended up in some pretty tricky situation few times that could have been dangerous and or damage the kite...

Has anyone found a solution to fix this ?

Cheers

hi Flysurfer, l understand ur question, and l would be happy to see the switchkites with shorter bridles too.
l fly Switchkites from the beginning of their existance, but the longest ones l flew were methods( nowadays l fly a set of Elements, which have long bridles too)

l must say till now l never had a bridle wrap around the wingtip(knocking wood)
At the same time l am not a freestyler so not a big advice l can give you, but do you pump your kites to the maximum pressure? maybe not enough air in the narrow leading edge could cause it ?
cheers Dude :cool2:


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 Post subject: Re: Switch Nitro 4 : How to fix the long bridle issue ?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:37 pm 
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Buy a kite with no bridle or short bridle, long bridles catch tips and when you pop hard enough to slack the kite this can happen. The nitro is a freeride/boosting kite anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Switch Nitro 4 : How to fix the long bridle issue ?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:41 am 
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Frank82 wrote:
Buy a kite with no bridle or short bridle, long bridles catch tips and when you pop hard enough to slack the kite this can happen. The nitro is a freeride/boosting kite anyway.




Exactly...


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 Post subject: Re: Switch Nitro 4 : How to fix the long bridle issue ?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:52 am 
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So, the bridles are too long on the Nitro 4 and the Element 4?
Is this the result of insisting on no pulleys in the design?

Never had a bridle wrap on my Epic Renegades or my Epic Screamers.
Never had a bridle wrap on my Blade Triggers or my Blade Primes.
Never had a bridle wrap on my Ocean Rodeo Rises or my Ocean Rodeo Razor.
Never had a Bridle wrap on my Wainman Rabbits.
But they each have a pulley on each front bridle.


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 Post subject: Re: Switch Nitro 4 : How to fix the long bridle issue ?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:11 am 
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You ever unhooked and intiated really slack lines through hard edging pop then ate shit trying some paralytic looking spider monkey move? I've never had a bridle wrap either but I'm too old now for that style. Or more to the point the risk reward is too great at my age and responsibility. He it talking about a bridle wrap given the above and Yeh a highish aspect freeride kite from any brand has far. More potential for a bridle wrap given this situation. Hence franks suggestion and mine....don't bring a sword to a gun fight. If you do, don't whinge about long bridles!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Switch Nitro 4 : How to fix the long bridle issue ?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:40 am 
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OnB wrote:
So, the bridles are too long on the Nitro 4 and the Element 4?
Is this the result of insisting on no pulleys in the design?

Never had a bridle wrap on my Epic Renegades or my Epic Screamers.
Never had a bridle wrap on my Blade Triggers or my Blade Primes.
Never had a bridle wrap on my Ocean Rodeo Rises or my Ocean Rodeo Razor.
Never had a Bridle wrap on my Wainman Rabbits.
But they each have a pulley on each front bridle.


I never had a bridle wrap on any on my Elements. V1, V2 and V3.

I just don't get it why you hear some people complaining about long bridles... yeah, they're certainly not very short, but I wouldn't call them long either.

A solution for the topicstarter would either be a C-kite, configuring the Nitro as a C-kite (Like MJ did) or alter his technique a bit, keeping the kite a bit higher in the air after popping. Bridles should have less tendency to wrap that way.


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 Post subject: Re: Switch Nitro 4 : How to fix the long bridle issue ?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:44 pm 
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Setting Nitro on 5 lines would solve both longish (but not really long) bridle and relaunch issues in marginal conditions. Haven't done it yet but come winter time I might do it. The Vapor III I owned before was sold with both bridle and a fifth line leader which was fantastic. You could "switch" things around in 10 min or less. The Vapor III on short bridles had less depower, it was a bit better with five lines.


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