You might be right about being wrongMotion wrote:I think Drift / Slack does not only depends on the position of the kite. The profile is also very important. C kites have less profile (less grunty kite, less power on the bar) then bow kite. That why C kites won't backstall even whey they sit deep in the ww. This also mean when you edge them very hard in strong wind they will move more forward in the ww and will eat gusty better. But when poping the POP happens to quick and the kite will not move forward so it will just slingshot you toward the kite. this is when you get slack.
i might be wrong though.
uuuuuhhhhmmmm...I'm can't be totally agree with you. By my exprience I saw C kite backstall exactly like a bow kite...so I think there are not kite that backstall and kite that doesn't, there are kite that are correctly trimmed and kite not.( trim a c kite is easier )E^Ri wrote:Ok guys come on...
The only difference between a c kite and a bow/hybrid is how the kite reacts the moment you unhook. C kite design is based around the old two line kite model that is designed to fly without the need for sheeting, so when you unhook they continue to fly forward at the same speed. Inversely, bow/hybrid kites require constant adjustments in sheeting to continue to fly right unless the wind is perfect. So when you unhook, a bow/hybrid will tend to have too much back line pressure and begin to slow down/fall back in the window, that is why they feel like a truck pulling downwind, and they will likely backstall if you don't hook back in and sheet out. That is also why it is recommended to trim your kite before unhooking, unlike with c kites.
When it comes to pop all that matters is the power of a kite. So what gives a kite power? It's the apparent wind flowing across the canopy. So when you load a c kite, just like a two line kite, it shoots forward in the wind window. Most of you think that kills the power, but again, power is based on apparent wind speed not necessarily position in the wind window. So the moment it shoots forward you actually increase the power of the kite. Bow/hybrids will mostly slow down as you load, unless you trimmed it a little bit, in which case you are not using the full power of the kite to begin with.
Now slack... again has nothing to do with the kite. All that matters is that you pop hard enough to load the lines up and accelerate forward faster than the kite is moving forward. So the faster you go and the harder you pop, the more slack you get. Since a bow starts to slow down and sit back it is sometimes harder to hold your line and load the lines, so your pop gets thrown off, resulting in less slack.
In the end it is all about rider technique, that is why when you watch pro riders you can't really tell a difference between those on bows and those on c kites. For example, you have Andre Philip who rides a bow kite and always gets slack, then you have Langeree on a c kite and he rarely gets slack. so it doesn't matter. The only major difference I notice, and it is the reason I ride c kites, is that after you slack out the kite and land your trick, you can edge again and a c kite will keep flying, where as a bow will backstall no matter what. That is unless you ride downwind too long, then any kite will backstall.
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