I don't agree, I think there are very clear differences in several areas.E^Ri wrote:Ok guys come on...
The only difference between a c kite and a bow/hybrid is how the kite reacts the moment you unhook.
I agree LEI C Kites were designed to fly correctly sheeted in or sheeted out.E^Ri wrote:C kite design is based around the old two line kite model that is designed to fly without the need for sheeting, so when you unhook they continue to fly forward at the same speed.
They didn't depower much then, ..and obviously the new wider tipped bridled C Kites depower pretty well now but still obviously a lot less than bow/hybrid designs.
I disagree.E^Ri wrote:Inversely, bow/hybrid kites require constant adjustments in sheeting to continue to fly right unless the wind is perfect. So when you unhook, a bow/hybrid will tend to have too much back line pressure and begin to slow down/fall back in the window, that is why they feel like a truck pulling downwind, and they will likely backstall if you don't hook back in and sheet out.
Bow/Hybrid/SLE kites were designed to fly correctly sheeted in, but also designed to depower far more, able to fly correctly with the large change in AOA, made possible by longer bar sheeting stroke, accomplished by designing a flatter canopy shape with bridles and pulleys.
My first Bow type kite flew forward just fine fully sheeted in, ..but sure didn't turn like a C kite, based on it's design concept.
Most bows and deltas don't generate much power through the turns though, as most of us know.
You can kill the power in any kite and slow it down, if you continue to apply lots of edge pressure after it has moved as far forward as it will.
Trying to point a board too high for too long will do it, you can bring a kite to a dead standstill if you are strong enough.
They all shoot forward when you load 'em, it's just a question of how much.E^Ri wrote:When it comes to pop all that matters is the power of a kite. So what gives a kite power? It's the apparent wind flowing across the canopy. So when you load a c kite, just like a two line kite, it shoots forward in the wind window.
Obviously some kites sit further back than others.
A high depower kite (Bow/SLE/Hybrid) generally sits further forward in the window while flying along and really sits forward when flying sheeted out.
I disagree.E^Ri wrote:Now slack... again has nothing to do with the kite.
I think slack varies a lot from one kite model/style to another.
Yup.E^Ri wrote:All that matters is that you pop hard enough to load the lines up and accelerate forward faster than the kite is moving forward. So the faster you go and the harder you pop, the more slack you get.
Not sure I understand this.E^Ri wrote:Since a bow starts to slow down and sit back it is sometimes harder to hold your line and load the lines, so your pop gets thrown off, resulting in less slack.
I thought it had more to do with the more forward flying kites moving faster (sooner) to pulling after you pop, so less slack and for a shorter time period.