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Caution Kites?

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:50 pm
by Nicklas
Any news 2013? Almost everbody have release there 2013 models but I havn't read anything about Caution and I'm looking for a new wave kite...

Re: Caution Kites?

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:19 pm
by longhaul
Brendan at caution told me december or january for 2013 kites.

Re: Caution Kites?

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:55 pm
by stefaans
Props to those guys that actually knows what 2013 means.

Re: Caution Kites?

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:30 pm
by mowaves
Props to those guys that actually knows what 2013 means.
agree 100% to that!

Re: Caution Kites?

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:39 am
by S.A.
Caution Spitfire 2013 – 10m

Well, it's really hard to get luckier than being able to get onto the water for a superb session the very next day after the 1st shipment of 2013 kites arrive, but, as I was able to get out there for a good 2 ½ hours in today's SW, I can give you some early feedback on how the new kites compare to the 2012 model Spitfire.

When I 1st went out, the wind was around 18-20kt SW and on my later session it had dropped down to around 15kt.
Initially, I had the kite rigged on the middle knot on the rear pigtail, and for the second session in the lighter winds I powered it up fully (1st knot).
The surf was small (4ft) and I used a strapped directional board the entire time.

I'll get into the finer details a little further on, but to try and summarise my overall impressions upfront, I would say that there are two things that really stood out for me in the way that the new Spitfire handles:

The 1st one is that it is just incredibly smooth. I know that that sounds kind of cheesy, but really, the best way to describe it is smooth!
Smooth across the window, smooth power through the turns, smooth lift in the jumps and smooth sheeting feel on the bar.
The 2nd is the jumping ability. The earlier Spitfires are no slouch in this area, but it takes some time to dial in the technique to get the best result out of them.
This new Spitfire makes jumping super easy and there is loads of lift available and super nice float to put you down gently again . I really can't wait for the next decent NE to set some personal new altitude records.

In addition to the above mentioned stand-out aspects, I found the Spitfire to have retained the incredible stability in the air and unsurpassed downwind drift when on a wave that has given the Spitfire a reputation as one of the best wave riding kites out there.

The kite turns pretty quickly. I would say that the new 10m turns a little quicker than the previous 9m that it replaces.
The power delivery through the turns is predictable and the kite does not pull you off your edge in powered up bottom turns on the wave face. Even at 20kt with the kite pretty powered up I was able to crank it through various bottom turns and never once did I feel out of control.
The 2012 Spitfires have a little “kick” through the last part of the turn and the new version has smoothed this out to a more consistent and even power delivery.

Caution have always produced kites that rocket upwind and the new Spitfire is no exception. The change is that it now all happens with less physical effort than before and I tacked quite far upwind (1km) with absolute ease while looking for some bigger sets.
Normally a trek like that would take some physical effort but I definitely found that it was easier to achieve the same upwind goal.

The handling while wave riding is superb and I would expect no less from a kite with Caution branding on it.
It's hard to convey the kites ability in this department without babbling in all sorts of superlatives, so just believe me when I say that it is one of the leading designs for this aspect of kiting, bar none.
Whether you're using the kites power to crank you through the turns or hanging it out to dry while you surf the sets, it will drift, turn, power up or down and keep you in absolute control at all times.

I will update this feedback later as I get to spend more time on the 10m (& others) in a wider range of conditions at the lighter and stronger ends of it's wind range.

At this point I feel that the 2013 Spitfire definitely has some advantages to offer, and these traits should especially please twintip freestyle rider who are looking for a good jumping and all-round kite.
The super smooth and predictable control and power delivery also make it even easier for beginner to intermediate kites to progress and as all of the excellent wave riding characteristics of the earlier models have been retained it's hard to find a reason not to upgrade.

The 2013 bar has a few tweaks to it. The new bar is nicely tapered and slightly narrower diameter than previous and I it feels very comfy in hand.
There are also some new finger indentations that seem to work quite nicely.
The rest of the bar/line setup is pretty much the same as previous except that the overall appearance and quality of the various components seem to have improved nicely.

Overall: Good job Caution!


Re: Caution Kites?

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:47 pm
by Dr Makani
In all honesty - this 'review' puts brands like this waaay on the backburner for me. These bla-bla reviews will do more damage than good - at least for my kite budget. Sure it's 'industry standard' having these semi-honest-user posts flooding over social media and kite magazines, but even as a smaller kite manufacturer should have more faith in your product.


Re: Caution Kites?

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:49 pm
by Thor SFBay
Since Caution is based in my area I want them to succeed. But lately I've been wondering if they are on their way out. They used to have twin tip boards and multiple kite models, but now it's just surfboards and one kite model (plus SUPs). Their website is inactive most of the time and they just recently added the 2013 Spitfire to the website long after all the other companies have presented their 2013 models. Last year they went to a direct sales model, which means no shops will be selling them. If you're gonna do that, then you need to do something to get people interested in your kites and Caution seems to do almost no marketing. They never do any demos at the local kite spots and you rarely see their kites outside of Santa Cruz. And I know this shouldn't be important, but... my god, their graphics are incredibly ugly and are even worse this year. All that said, I have to wonder if Caution will still be around in 2014.

Re: Caution Kites?

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:09 pm
by KiteCulture
and they are brutal to look at. yikes.

Re: Caution Kites?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:12 am
by John Doe
They're good-solid kites. Been using them for the last 4-5 years, been kiting since the beginning, been windsurfing before that for 20 years.

They've always had a Santa Cruz centered market, even 20 years ago when it was Schiebel Sails, which was the owners windsurfing sail brand, before that I believe Peter was sail-maker for Waddell Sails. I don't think the fact that they're a Santa Cruz centered market really speaks one way or the other way toward the future of the company, they will probably be doing the same thing 5 years from now, that they were 5 years ago.

If you take the Schiebel brothers contribution to windsports on the Central Coast of California, it's probably around 30 years of being at the center of the best spots on the California coast. Everyone around Santa Cruz knows that.

I used their kites in the recent swell that hit Hawaii, which had 20'+ sets, & they performed flawlessly. I'll admit, I use their kites with a Slingshot bar & LOVE that combo. No I'm not "affiliated" with them in any way.


Re: Caution Kites?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:54 am
by tony montana
I think caution are going down the same road as BWS,and look how well that brand is doing,iwish them luck,and thank them for all the great videos on there web many great tips,TONY