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Re: Kite Racing is out of Olympics! Windsurfing is back in

Postby longwhitecloud » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:03 am

@tiago - yeah that is true.. i guess i mean 2 together

, 25 knots... 3 kites whole year... box rule with extra restrictions, no classic comp venues due to likely over 25 knots average... no prka prize money - riders will decide what is good for them and do whatever they want. Isaf may actually get some kiteboarding grass roots some day, but i can't see that happening any time very soon. njoi!

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Re: Kite Racing is out of Olympics! Windsurfing is back in

Postby Tiago1973 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:25 am

but what the chances are for kiteboard to establish itself outside ISAF now that is within it? close to zero?

and all this started ´cause some guy want to be recognized as the world fastest sailor...

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Re: Kite Racing is out of Olympics! Windsurfing is back in

Postby Tiago1973 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:37 am

Thieu wrote: Everybody should learn how to position on a start line, go upwind, set a strategy depending on weather conditions and other people around you, use priority rules, tack on a shift, etc. When you learn the basics, it become a real fun strategy game, adding brain - and not only speed (and gear efficiency) - to the game. And for that, it needs the best upwind abilities (close hauled).


?

you put tatics in the game if everybody uses similar equipment, allowing similar speed, up-wind ability, etc.

you don´t need the absolute best upwind ability or fastest board. Anything goes if it goes at the same pace

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Re: Kite Racing is out of Olympics! Windsurfing is back in

Postby Toby » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:37 am

Tiago1973 wrote:and all this started ´cause some guy want to be recognized as the world fastest sailor...


not a bad thing if you ask me! great for the speed guys for sure. And also good for the course racers.
And the rest is not really affected, only that there is only one freestyle and wave title now...which is also good!

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Re: Kite Racing is out of Olympics! Windsurfing is back in

Postby Tiago1973 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:16 pm

errr.. my point was not if it is a good or a bad thing

it is having a business driving the entire sport under a specific direction - kite as a sailing class - independently of what joe rider, pro-riders or the remaning industry thought just because they need a head-line for a commercial

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if this is not lame then what is?

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Re: Kite Racing is out of Olympics! Windsurfing is back in

Postby KiteschoolHolland » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:26 pm

Toby wrote:Olympics is great for ....young idealistic riders.


Idealistic?
Olympics are chauvinistic crazes of nationalism and
insanely competitive individualistic extremism
this hurts young people even more than adults,
physically, psychologically and spiritually.

Any real ideal is damaged by nationalism
and competition.

Do you believe the "brotherhood" propaganda of Olympics?

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Re: Kite Racing is out of Olympics! Windsurfing is back in

Postby frankm1960 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:12 am

KiteschoolHolland wrote:Idealistic?
Olympics are chauvinistic crazes of nationalism and
insanely competitive individualistic extremism
this hurts young people even more than adults,
physically, psychologically and spiritually.

Any real ideal is damaged by nationalism
and competition.

Do you believe the "brotherhood" propaganda of Olympics?


If I did believe in it I don't any more... pretty hard to after this debacle.
At one time I thought they were guided by intelligent and well intentioned folks but now I'm not so sure.

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Re: Kite Racing is out of Olympics! Windsurfing is back in

Postby Flyboy » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:08 am

At one time I thought they were guided by intelligent and well intentioned folks


Really?! What on earth gave you that impression?! :duh:

I really don't care that much one way or another about kiting being in the olympics, but I would say that the decision to include it for Rio seems to have been a bit premature.


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